Veganism

MellowJoe said:
Oh, I don't know.. our capacity to do logic? to reason? Get back to your Raganr Redbeard bollocks and leave the thread alone.
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I've told you before, I won't leave it alone.

Someone needs to stand up to your evangelical postings, if you want a free ride with nodding (gluten free) dogs then post on a vegan forum or join mum's net.

So you put humans above the animal kingdom because we "can do logic [sic]" and "reason". Yet when someone uses logic and reason "humans evolved to eat meat" "meat is fucking tasty" then you have a problem with such logical reasoning.

So you wish to pick and choose which human facets you'll allow. As I say, if either of us sounds like a religious authoritarian nut, it's you, not I. I've never once told you what to eat, you can't say the same.
 
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BJL_City said:
meat, born, raised, grass fed and on my dinner plate. You? Eating soil I presume.
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"most factory-farmed animals are kept indoors and never even see soil during their lifetimes, so would certainly be deficient without supplementation. These horrible artificial conditions make the "vegan diet is unnatural" argument seem somewhat ironic. In fact, around 95% of all B12 supplements manufactured are actually given to farmed animals."

Also from eating meat you are consuming hormones and antibiotics.

Carry on though. I honestly couldn't care less what you eat, I'm just sick of seeing all you expert nutritionists tell people that you have to eat meat, which is shite. I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure you haven't got a clue about how much of each of your RDA of vitamins & minerals you consume each day but you are happy to try and tell others that their diet is deficient.
 
MellowJoe said:
Again.. appealing to nature.. you just don't get it do you. Everything is natural. What else is there other than nature?

Christ, we've hijacked evolution. Condoms, pills, books, stories. We don't have to live by those rules anymore you know.
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But by criticising an appeal to nature you're stating that it is purely natural for humans to eat meat no? You just don't want us to anymore.

And I'd dare say that anything humans do is natural as we are part of nature. You just want to control what others do because you like animals.

I'd love to know how you think we've hijacked evolution though, but I've a feeling it may involve some answers that show you don't have a full grasp of evolution.
 
Both my sisters are healthy, vegetarian women. They have been veggies for as long as I remember.
Not fucking once have they told me why they choose to be or why I should be.
 
Juan King said:
"most factory-farmed animals are kept indoors and never even see soil during their lifetimes, so would certainly be deficient without supplementation. These horrible artificial conditions make the "vegan diet is unnatural" argument seem somewhat ironic. In fact, around 95% of all B12 supplements manufactured are actually given to farmed animals."

Also from eating meat you are consuming hormones and antibiotics.

Carry on though. I honestly couldn't care less what you eat, I'm just sick of seeing all you expert nutritionists tell people that you have to eat meat, which is shite. I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure you haven't got a clue about how much of each of your RDA of vitamins & minerals you consume each day but you are happy to try and tell others that their diet is deficient.
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sweeping generalisation then. You deleted the link because even it wrote that vegans need supplements and that because some meat is factory farmed it means you may miss out, but the nice, proper grass-fed stuff is perfectly fine. So you have to eat factory farmed and preferably American with antibiotics and stuff pumped it. Fine, easy to avoid. Tell me where your vegan diet produces enough natural Vitamin B12, tell me it's widespread and then you can prove science wrong and show humans can survive on a natural diet without animal products.
 
SWP's back said:
I've told you before, I won't leave it alone.

Someone needs to stand up to your evangelical postings, if you want a free ride with nodding (gluten free) dogs then post on a vegan forum or join mum's net.

So you out humans above the animal kingdom because we "can do logic [sic]" and "reason". Yet when someone uses logic and reason "humans evolved to eat meat" "meat is fucking tasty" then you have a problem with such logical reasoning.

So you wish to pick and choose which human facets you'll allow. As I say, if either of us sounds like a religious authoritarian nut, it's you, not I. I've never once told you what to eat, you can't say the same.
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It is the veganism thread numbnuts. What do you expect? You can't tell me what to eat because you're ignorant on the subject. 3rd time I've said that now. Do some reading.

Please.. I have already correctly stated that your arguments are fallacious. I have yet to hear a semi-intelligent reason why we should continue to harm and slaughter animals.
 
Barcon said:
Not fucking once have they told me why they choose to be or why I should be.
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That's great for them and you. I don't know anyone that has a problem with anyone choosing their own diet, apart from the odd evangelical vegan, but they only seem to exist online.
 
MellowJoe said:
You do know that the egg/dairy industry isn't all fun and games.
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I don't eat eggs either and organic everything else,i feel comfortable with my stance when it comes to animals,i'm a women of a certain age that needs diary in my diet and i'm happy i don't eat meat or fish,we all do what we can
I also haven't owned anything leather since the mid 80's,shoes cost me a fortune but thats fine
 
Maybe one day the world will ban the eating of meat but thank fuck I'll be long since dead and buried before then.
 
karen7 said:
How can anyone not love that little face
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they are incredibly loving and trusting, hence their vulnerability.
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i was lucky enough to once spend an hour with one,
an adult male,
he was funny as fuck,
i swear he had a dry sense of humour,
this sort of stuff,
tumblr_nmobz3bMNl1qedb29o2_400.gif
 
karen7 said:
I don't eat eggs either and organic everything else,i feel comfortable with my stance when it comes to animals,i'm a women of a certain age that needs diary in my diet and i'm happy i don't eat meat or fish,we all do what we can
I also haven't owned anything leather since the mid 80's,shoes cost me a fortune but thats fine
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You can get a nice pair of crocs for a couple of quid.
 
karen7 said:
I don't eat eggs either and organic everything else,i feel comfortable with my stance when it comes to animals,i'm a women of a certain age that needs diary in my diet and i'm happy i don't eat meat or fish,we all do what we can
I also haven't owned anything leather since the mid 80's,shoes cost me a fortune but thats fine
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Congrats. People seem to think moral argument means the espouser has to practice what (s)he preaches. The arguments stand alone. The fact that we are weak, or addicted, is by the by.
 
calum down said:
they are incredibly loving and trusting, hence their vulnerability.
1IKMECm.gif


i was lucky enough to once spend an hour with one,
an adult male,
he was funny as fuck,
i swear he had a dry sense of humour,
this sort of stuff,
tumblr_nmobz3bMNl1qedb29o2_400.gif
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I'm convinced they understand us a lot more than we give them credit for
 
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