Tunnel bust-up after derby

After Jose Mourinho's unhappiness at City playing music, a Swansea spokesman said:

"Every club realises the environment they are in and we have never had to tell any club to turn the music down or off. Like any club, City are able to play music in their dressing room." [Mirror]

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karen7 said:
After Jose Mourinho's unhappiness at City playing music, a Swansea spokesman said:

"Every club realises the environment they are in and we have never had to tell any club to turn the music down or off. Like any club, City are able to play music in their dressing room." [Mirror]

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Nice work from Swansea there. Shows where their sympathies lie.
 
Have I just not noticed them, but has the entire city camp just said nothing at all since immediately post-match, rather than get drawn into anything which could be used against them?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The voyeur has got in on the act naturally. North London's answer to Norris Cole. "I was not there. I didn't see it" (not that he would have seen it if he had been there of course). Then he goes on to say all teams do it on occasions and that we should be more like Sumo Wrestling.

I'd say Herrera's already half-way to being more like a Sumo Wrestler.

The MUEN are desperately reporting his comments as "Wenger condemns City celebrations".
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His quotes have been taken really out of context to be fair to him, having seen the video.

He basically says everyone is on the end of some exuberant celebrations on occasion, and the press have reported it as his backing up Mourinho which isn't at all what he said.
 
I still want to know why Ederson is just casually carrying milk around for a post game beverage. Surely there's a better choice?

Is he allergic to Gatorade? Does he not like water? I feel like this is the inside scoop we need.
 
Milkgate is now presented as the Machiavellian triumph of the master manipulator. In fact everything went wrong for the master muppet on Sunday. Firstly he tried to outsmart Pep by picking a very attacking lineup which would take City by surprise and seize the initiatiative. In fact, City made sure they never got the ball and never stood a chance of standing on anything other than their back foot. The ground had been prepared by a transparent attempt to pressurise the ref into giving a foul every time one of them went down and nothing every time a City player got clattered. The ref showed a stubborn streak from the very start: the MotD pictures saw Matic ridiculing the award of a free kick for a clear trip on Walker and picked up clearly the odious Herrera's constant and dreary questioning of every decision in City's favour. The ref followed his impartial road for the full 90 minutes and United stayed on their feeble path to a richly deserved pasting. Their luck was that the score was only 2-1.

What happened next was not Mourinho turning "deflection tactics". Mourinho was NOT in control of himself but appears to have been seriously out of control. He enjoys displaying a total lack of respect for opponents when he wins - notably Pellegrini and Wenger - but he has never been able to cope with defeat. Everyone is to blame, but blaming others is not a deflection tactic but an expression of his own personality defects. The club doctor on one occasion but nearly always the match officials and here he put the blame firmly on the ref who had ruined a good display by denying a clear penalty. And on the way to the press there was time to call in at our dressing room to show that he wasn't actually beaten and punish them for winning.

Mourinho's repeated inability to accept defeat as part of sport is alarming and has been a problem for over ten years. Until the FA tell him him that his behaviour is no part of English football and that if it is repeated he can pack his bags and ply his trade in another country it will not stop. He will never change but our nearest rivals need to do themselves, and English football a favour, and sack him.
 
yankblue said:
I still want to know why Ederson is just casually carrying milk around for a post game beverage. Surely there's a better choice?

Is he allergic to Gatorade? Does he not like water? I feel like this is the inside scoop we need.
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There is no suggestion it was Ederson that threw it from what I've read. By all accounts it was on a table inside the dressing room next to the Tea and Coffee making facilities.
 
karen7 said:
After Jose Mourinho's unhappiness at City playing music, a Swansea spokesman said:

"Every club realises the environment they are in and we have never had to tell any club to turn the music down or off. Like any club, City are able to play music in their dressing room." [Mirror]

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Yes Swansea <3
 
cptaidan88 said:
There is no suggestion it was Ederson that threw it from what I've read. By all accounts it was on a table inside the dressing room next to the Tea and Coffee making facilities.
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Ahh mystery solved! I thought Eddy was just strolling around chugging a gallon of milk. Didn't occur to me it was for coffee / tea.
 
yankblue said:
Ahh mystery solved! I thought Eddy was just strolling around chugging a gallon of milk. Didn't occur to me it was for coffee / tea.
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It will probably turn out to be one of those little plastic tubs you get by your kettle in hotels.
 
cptaidan88 said:
There is no suggestion it was Ederson that threw it from what I've read. By all accounts it was on a table inside the dressing room next to the Tea and Coffee making facilities.
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Ederson strikes me as a lad who'd know the old trick of hot sugar water. Bad man that lad.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Milkgate is now presented as the Machiavellian triumph of the master manipulator. In fact everything went wrong for the master muppet on Sunday. Firstly he tried to outsmart Pep by picking a very attacking lineup which would take City by surprise and seize the initiatiative. In fact, City made sure they never got the ball and never stood a chance of standing on anything other than their back foot. The ground had been prepared by a transparent attempt to pressurise the ref into giving a foul every time one of them went down and nothing every time a City player got clattered. The ref showed a stubborn streak from the very start: the MotD pictures saw Matic ridiculing the award of a free kick for a clear trip on Walker and picked up clearly the odious Herrera's constant and dreary questioning of every decision in City's favour. The ref followed his impartial road for the full 90 minutes and United stayed on their feeble path to a richly deserved pasting. Their luck was that the score was only 2-1.

What happened next was not Mourinho turning "deflection tactics". Mourinho was NOT in control of himself but appears to have been seriously out of control. He enjoys displaying a total lack of respect for opponents when he wins - notably Pellegrini and Wenger - but he has never been able to cope with defeat. Everyone is to blame, but blaming others is not a deflection tactic but an expression of his own personality defects. The club doctor on one occasion but nearly always the match officials and here he put the blame firmly on the ref who had ruined a good display by denying a clear penalty. And on the way to the press there was time to call in at our dressing room to show that he wasn't actually beaten and punish them for winning.

Mourinho's repeated inability to accept defeat as part of sport is alarming and has been a problem for over ten years. Until the FA tell him him that his behaviour is no part of English football and that if it is repeated he can pack his bags and ply his trade in another country it will not stop. He will never change but our nearest rivals need to do themselves, and English football a favour, and sack him.
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Perfectly written , well done .
 
From Dan Roan at BBC:

Mourinho questions Man City players’ behaviour & education after post-match fracas, before Utd’s press officer steps in after we ask manager why he approached opposition dressing room

The media know the score even though some sections don't want to report it.
 
Just watched both press conferences. You can tell that Mourinho did not want to be drawn on it. He batted loads of questions away. Knows he was at fault. Their press officer also had to step in when he was asked if he entered our dressing too..
Pep on the other hand was cool as fuck. Totally professional and said we did nothing wrong and all in the confines of our locker room. He was asked about how arteta cut his head he said they have put that in the report to the FA and it is up to them what they do.

I will be surprised if we are fined as much as they will. They instigated this and surely should get the biggest punishment
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Milkgate is now presented as the Machiavellian triumph of the master manipulator. In fact everything went wrong for the master muppet on Sunday. Firstly he tried to outsmart Pep by picking a very attacking lineup which would take City by surprise and seize the initiatiative. In fact, City made sure they never got the ball and never stood a chance of standing on anything other than their back foot. The ground had been prepared by a transparent attempt to pressurise the ref into giving a foul every time one of them went down and nothing every time a City player got clattered. The ref showed a stubborn streak from the very start: the MotD pictures saw Matic ridiculing the award of a free kick for a clear trip on Walker and picked up clearly the odious Herrera's constant and dreary questioning of every decision in City's favour. The ref followed his impartial road for the full 90 minutes and United stayed on their feeble path to a richly deserved pasting. Their luck was that the score was only 2-1.

What happened next was not Mourinho turning "deflection tactics". Mourinho was NOT in control of himself but appears to have been seriously out of control. He enjoys displaying a total lack of respect for opponents when he wins - notably Pellegrini and Wenger - but he has never been able to cope with defeat. Everyone is to blame, but blaming others is not a deflection tactic but an expression of his own personality defects. The club doctor on one occasion but nearly always the match officials and here he put the blame firmly on the ref who had ruined a good display by denying a clear penalty. And on the way to the press there was time to call in at our dressing room to show that he wasn't actually beaten and punish them for winning.

Mourinho's repeated inability to accept defeat as part of sport is alarming and has been a problem for over ten years. Until the FA tell him him that his behaviour is no part of English football and that if it is repeated he can pack his bags and ply his trade in another country it will not stop. He will never change but our nearest rivals need to do themselves, and English football a favour, and sack him.
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Excellent articulation of exactly my thoughts on the matter. Thank you.

Classic attempt by Mourinho to distract from the fact that he cost United the game. They have a talented group of players there and he made them look like Pulis' Stoke. If they'd gone toe to toe with City maybe they'd have lost. Reactive and pragmatic football is all well and good if the ends justify the means but when they don't, is there anything left to take pride in? He knows that that would have been the conversation all week so he chose to create this 'storm'.

I'm really pleased to see that Pep and City are declining to be drawn into this. It is the most effective way of handling it and I'm sure the most frustrating reaction for Mourinho.
 
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