Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

[squirtyflower]

You’re also making strawmen here. I’m not comparing the leg breakers you mention with the “Silva goal” [sic], I was merely answering a specific question about decisions that have gone our way.

Sorry Ric but your Silva post is a straw man bigger than than the one Edward Woodwood was burned alive in.

 

[carlosthejackal]

Must have been after he'd originally given the goal then yes?

I'm not trying to be argumentative her with you mate but what happened today surrounding that goal was complete and utter nonsense form both mason and his linesman.

The question of interfering with play only came into it after the linesman flagged. I am pissed off with refs not clamping down on reckless tackles , with offside decisions you win some and lose some , the other question that arises is the fact that the VAR system is not being used in all FA Cup games, so basically teams are not competing on a level playing field

 

[bobmcfc]

No he wasn't.

We have it was disallowed for offside which it wasnt and we have it was disallowed because he was interfering with play which again he wasn't.

At least they got together to get their stories straight i suppose.........

That decision was totally mind boggling

 

[meltonblue]

Yes he did, but it doesn't matter he had no influence on the goal, and that is the current rule, therefor offside or onside doesn't matter, its a goal.

They thought he was in the line of sight as well as offside, that’s why they gave it.

Clearly he wasn’t offside. In line of sight, I personally think not but I can see how some could say he was.

 

[cleavers]

No he wasn't.

We have it was disallowed for offside which it wasnt and we have it was disallowed because he was interfering with play which again he wasn't.

At least they got together to get their stories straight i suppose.........

Basically 2 wrong decisions in one.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Sorry Ric but your Silva post is a straw man bigger than than the one Edward Woodwood was burned alive in.

Ooooh Britt Ekland. Sorry lost myself, there.

 

[blueinsa]

The question of interfering with play only came into it after the linesman flagged.

But who brought it up?

The linesman couldn't have because from his position he cant see that given the nagle and can only flag for offside.

mason didn't because he gave the goal so didn't see anything wrong with it from his position and only when they go for a chat together does it get brought up and its bollox because he was neither offside or interfering and by the laws of the game he has every right to stand where he was and the goal is perfectly good.

It felt like any excuse to disallow it and they took it and i will say this now, if VAR had been there they would have still stuck by their bent fucking decision.

 

[Ric]

I admire your stance here Ric, but no matter what the reasons are, that goal should stand, even if Sane was in an offside position, because under the current rules Sane is entitled to be there, and he made no attempt to go near the ball, and Mason knew that, which was why he originally gave the goal. He wanted a reason not to give it, to keep a big game for the TV broadcasters and sponsors open, so for me he went over to make it look like he'd taken advice.

I agree completely that the goal should have stood, that’s clear. I’m just laying the blame for that one with the linesman rather than Mason.

Regardless, I’m less arsed about that. It’s frustrating that such a good goal was wrongly ruled out, but the dangerous challenges that are consistently not being punished properly are the bigger concern for me. Something needs to be done about this as a matter of priority. It’s laughable that players can retrospectively be punished for diving, but not endangering an opponent’s safety (if they were booked at the time). The whole system is completely flawed.

 

[Ric]

Sorry Ric but your Silva post is a straw man bigger than than the one Edward Woodwood was burned alive in.

No, that was a specific answer to a specific question.

 

[cleavers]

They thought he was in the line of sight as well as offside, that’s why they gave it.

Don't you mean didn't give it ?

Mason gave it originally because he thought it was a legit goal, and the lino flagged, fine no issue with that if he thought he was offside, but he has no idea if he was in line of sight of the keeper, that is the referee's decision to make, and we all knew how that would go with Mason refereeing City.

I'm sorry but the goal was ruled out purely to keep the game interesting, us being 2-0 up that quickly would kill the spectacle, even though we had pretty much already killed it anyway.

 

[St.Pauli support]

I wished City players would celebrate under the nose of those ref teams post match in the mid circle
and politely shake hands to the refs for their beautiful performances.

 

[cleavers]

The whole system is completely flawed.

The whole refereeing system is flawed for me, and it needs changing quickly.

I didn't know until tonight that none of ours are at the World Cup, it doesn't surprise me though, not from what I witness week in week out, as I said at best its incompetent, and at worst something else.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I agree completely that the goal should have stood, that’s clear. I’m just laying the blame for that one with the linesman rather than Mason.

Regardless, I’m less arsed about that. It’s frustrating that such a good goal was wrongly ruled out, but the dangerous challenges that are consistently not being punished properly are the bigger concern for me. Something needs to be done about this as a matter of priority. It’s laughable that players can retrospectively be punished for diving, but not endangering an opponent’s safety (if they were booked at the time). The whole system is completely flawed.

I posted this in the post match but it’s relevant here. The fa changed the retrospective rule and it actually says: “the FA will reserve the right to take retrospective action when match officials are not in a position to fully assess a 'coming together' of players”. That is almost exactly the right law. The obvious flaw is that it requires Mason to say he wasn’t in a position to fully assess it. If he says that, it goes to the panel to be adjudicated on and he can get a three match ban. Problem is, he probably won’t say anything!

 

[meltonblue]

Sorry, I meant gave the offside, rather than didn't give the goal.

i just see it as a very bad decision rather than anything more untoward, it's just too obvious for referees to do that intentionally.

 

[dickie davies]

Or come on. If your saying the press know you don't think the likes of Winter, Samuel, Holt would blow it all wide open to get the scoop of the century?

And see their livelihood disappear

 

[blueinsa]

I posted this in the post match but it’s relevant here. The fa changed the retrospective rule and it actually says: “the FA will reserve the right to take retrospective action when match officials are not in a position to fully assess a 'coming together' of players”. That is almost exactly the right law. The obvious flaw is that it requires Mason to say he wasn’t in a position to fully assess it. If he says that, it goes to the panel to be adjudicated on and he can get a three match ban. Problem is, he probably won’t say anything!

Which having watched it again would only prove his integrity is not what it should be.

 

[fatbloke]

WTF are you rambling on abt. The same poster who's never off this thread came on and stated anyone who doesn't believe our club is targeted/corruption is a bellend. i never mentioned it was you, you need to re read the post.

The same poster who is “never off this thread” is offering to bet you £10 (money goes to charity) that they have posted less times than yourself in this thread.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The whole refereeing system is flawed for me, and it needs changing quickly.

I didn't know until tonight that none of ours are at the World Cup, it doesn't surprise me though, not from what I witness week in week out, as I said at best its incompetent, and at worst something else.

Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Holland, Serbia, Russia, Turkey, Poland and Slovenia. European referees on the provisional list for the World Cup. The England team cop for a load of flack but at least they get there. Riley should be resigning if not one of his referees is deemed fit for even the initial list....

 

[Ban-jani]

The disallowed goal is the worst decision I’ve ever seen in football.

I have neutral mates who never text me when City are playing texting and saying it was the worst half of refereeing they’d ever seen too.

Even my Rag mates were laughing at how poor Mason was.

It makes no bearing on us going through but I’m still livid about that goal... and it will have a bearing on us going forward so I’m fucking fuming over the Sane tackle still.

I Fucking hate Warnock with a burning passion

 

[Ric]

The same poster who is “never off this thread” is offering to bet you £10 (money goes to charity) that they have posted less times than yourself in this thread.

You have 66 posts in this thread, and he has 38. Which charity are you donating to fatbloke?