Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

[BigOscar]

Also, by my reckoning, there have been 4 red cards given to players against City, despite all the leg break attempts. But of these 4 red cards, 3 of them were in the 88th minute or later (one even after the game had finished). Mane's head kick was the only one given at a time when it would make any difference at all. I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence though...

 

[MillionMilesAway]

This is spot on. No way the ref could keep up (cos he's a fat twat) with Sane, but the lino had a clear view and failed to even flag despite that the tackle was so high and the c**t had both feet off the ground and was therefore not in control. Can't it be reviewed just on that-it was effectively violent conduct?

It will still be either the FA taking a view that it was an extraordinary incident (unlikely), or Mason stating that he hadn't seen it fully and he would have sent Bennett off if he had (flying pigs).

 

[squirtyflower]

Also, by my reckoning, there have been 4 red cards given to players against City, despite all the leg break attempts. But of these 4 red cards, 3 of them were in the 88th minute or later (one even after the game had finished). Mane's head kick was the only one given at a time when it would make any difference at all. I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence though...

Well just look at the furore that caused, so much so that commentators pronounced 'payback' when the guilty party scored past the player he maimed.

 

[BigOscar]

Well just look at the furore that caused, so much so that commentators pronounced 'payback' when the guilty party scored past the player he maimed.

Everyone in the media certainly made it pretty clear to referees just how much scrutiny they'd be under if they sent players off against us, even if it was for something as blatant as kicking the keeper in the face. The complete lack of backlash for not sending off players for leg breakers against us must make it pretty easy for the ****s in black to decide which way to lean

 

[TBooksbluearmy]

Lee Mason had a poor game on Sunday but he wasn't helped by his assistant in the yellow flag a Mr Simon Long, who got 2 major decisions wrong. 1st was to flag for offside, when B. Silva scored, when the city player was level at worst. The other for not telling the ref that the tackle by Bennett was a high challenge and worthy of a red card, and not a yellow.
In answer to hampshireblue the only way it can be reviewed is if Lee Mason said that he did not have a good enough view of the tackle, and if he did he would have issued a red card instead of a yellow. However the answer to that is why didn't the assistant with the yellow flag say to therefore that that was a dangerous tackle and worthy of a red card.

 

[squirtyflower]

Everyone in the media certainly made it pretty clear to referees just how much scrutiny they'd be under if they sent players off against us, even if it was for something as blatant as kicking the keeper in the face. The complete lack of backlash for not sending off players for leg breakers against us must make it pretty easy for the ****s in black to decide which way to lean

A concerted effort was made by a variety of pundits - Murphy and Neville, commentators - Tyler, players - Pogba and managers - Warnock and journalists from most media outlets that a more physical approach was needed and hence we have had several serious bad challenges go lightly punished.
It's open warfare on our players with collusion from the powers that be with the media.

 

[Silvas' left eyebrow]

This is spot on. No way the ref could keep up (cos he's a fat twat) with Sane, but the lino had a clear view and failed to even flag despite that the tackle was so high and the c**t had both feet off the ground and was therefore not in control. Can't it be reviewed just on that-it was effectively violent conduct?

The usual he got a yellow on the day. So ref saw it and deemed the tackle not to be dangerous! Or with excessive force. The only reason he gave a yellow was he saw it . You can't give what you don't see.......

Ho unless you don't see Sane off side or interfering with play. Then you can give what you don't see........

Absolute scum. Pig mol or what ever they call themselves should hang their heads in shame . Disgraceful. Do they even know the rules.

Ho yeah , walker sent off for backing in and raz sent off for celebrating with blues. At Bournemouth. Absolute disgrace.

No agenda........f**k yeah, right.........rant over.
Feel sorry for Pep and squad today.

 

[Silvas' left eyebrow]

Also, by my reckoning, there have been 4 red cards given to players against City, despite all the leg break attempts. But of these 4 red cards, 3 of them were in the 88th minute or later (one even after the game had finished). Mane's head kick was the only one given at a time when it would make any difference at all. I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence though...

They even debated all week wether kicking someone full force in head is dangerous or not !

Because when he left his area he became an outfield player. Ho, yeah forgot it was ok to kick outfield players in head.....WTF

 

[BigOscar]

A concerted effort was made by a variety of pundits - Murphy and Neville, commentators - Tyler, players - Pogba and managers - Warnock and journalists from most media outlets that a more physical approach was needed and hence we have had several serious bad challenges go lightly punished.
It's open warfare on our players with collusion from the powers that be with the media.

Hard to see it any other way at this point. 6 straight reds in the last couple of months, zero reds, zero retrospective bans.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The usual he got a yellow on the day. So ref saw it and deemed the tackle not to be dangerous! Or with excessive force. The only reason he gave a yellow was he saw it . You can't give what you don't see.......

Ho unless you don't see Sane off side or interfering with play. Then you can give what you don't see........

Absolute scum. Pig mol or what ever they call themselves should hang their heads in shame . Disgraceful. Do they even know the rules.

Ho yeah , walker sent off for backing in and raz sent off for celebrating with blues. At Bournemouth. Absolute disgrace.

No agenda........f**k yeah, right.........rant over.
Feel sorry for Pep and squad today.

The first bit isn't necessarily true.
If he can see the slide but not the actual contact (aside from the players close by, another Cardiff player was in the process of crossing his eyeline), he can give a foul for reckless play.
If the linesman buzzes his flag button and says 'late tackle', he can give a foul.

Both of those are perfectly reasonable courses of action which could be justified by the ref. That doesn't mean they are the correct sanction for the challenge, but that it's what he's seen.
Mason is crap, but I do think the linesman is at more fault, and possibly the 4th official too.

 

[Andrew___K]

Hopefully the pressure of media will force to change English standard of refereeing, making it closer to the continental one.

 

[squirtyflower]

Hard to see it any other way at this point. 6 straight reds in the last couple of months, zero reds, zero retrospective bans.

None even warranted reviewing, it's a disgrace

 

[paul1963]

The elbow on Walker against Bristol was a straight red.Took Sky about 3 minutes to show a replay of it.

 

[paulchapo]

The stupid thing is they can review a red card offense and quash it but because the thug was given two yellows it's only a one game ban. Also the other thugs just got off with potential career ending injuries but because they got a yellow that's it. The system is seriously flawed and needs sorting.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Hopefully the pressure of media will force to change English standard of refereeing, making it closer to the continental one.

very powerful and quite right - we may moan on here but unlikely mike riley or that darts player mason read this - front page of the times though is spot on.

Interesting - The bbc on the premier league transfer thread have a picture of the tackle as well , but their picture is a few moments later when that dirty twat isn't touching sane or the ball at all - obviously been put on the thread by one of the rag tossers who work there

 

[St.Pauli support]

Lee Mason had a poor game on Sunday but he wasn't helped by his assistant in the yellow flag a Mr Simon Long, who got 2 major decisions wrong. 1st was to flag for offside, when B. Silva scored, when the city player was level at worst. The other for not telling the ref that the tackle by Bennett was a high challenge and worthy of a red card, and not a yellow.
In answer to hampshireblue the only way it can be reviewed is if Lee Mason said that he did not have a good enough view of the tackle, and if he did he would have issued a red card instead of a yellow. However the answer to that is why didn't the assistant with the yellow flag say to therefore that that was a dangerous tackle and worthy of a red card.

Mate in both incidents a linesman is not needed at all. A ref is able to decide those incidents on his own very easily.

Bernardo's goal was about interference and only Mason could possibly see that, not the Linesman (who even failed about offside!).
For anybody with a sense for football and a bit of experience it was very clear that there is no point to discuss, as no keeper in the world would have been able to save that ball even if no other player was in the box. That's twisting rules and killing the game itself.
(Btw, would it be possible such a goal was disallowed for the rags? Just imagine...)

Leroy was kicked about by that useless bastard with a clear intention, to kill the chance.
Taking a player out from behind at pace in that position without a chance to play the ball must be without any doubt
a straight red NO MATTER if they player is injured by that foul or not. There is no space left for any interpretation.
FIFA rules should stand in England too.

So what's the official stance of the FA about scenes like that? What is their philosophy? Is that what they want? I cannot find anything.
What's the official stance of the ref's association?
How did Mason talk about the scenes post match??
Refs need to justify such decisions in post match interviews. Like e.g. in Germany.
Refs are allowed to make mistakes. But what Mason did is unthinkable for a ref in the biggest league wordwide.
He did not conduct the match as a neutral instance. In no way.

I cannot see any quality management in English refereeing. It's only based on the power of authority.
This is generally quite a bad starting point talking about change for the purpose of higher quality.

 

[kaz7]

Martin Atkinson has been appointed referee for Burnley vs. Manchester City this Saturday.

 

[The blue phantom]

Everyone in the media certainly made it pretty clear to referees just how much scrutiny they'd be under if they sent players off against us, even if it was for something as blatant as kicking the keeper in the face. The complete lack of backlash for not sending off players for leg breakers against us must make it pretty easy for the ****s in black to decide which way to lean

Tbf they are getting absolutely fuckin hammered today for what happened.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

As with so many of the flaws in the game, the source of the majority of the frustrations and inconsistencies lies at the feet of the FA together with PIGMOL.

To be so reliant upon two organisations ( using the phrase very loosely ) is a national disgrace.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Tbf they are getting absolutely fuckin hammered today for what happened.

And they deserve everything they get.