Which is where we’ll end up with this bollocks unless, as I hope and predict, the fans realise just how badly it will imapct on the game and it’ll get canned due to fan reaction. Every goal will now have an element of doubt, every single one. Was there a pull on a shirt before the ball was played that led to the ball over the top, which led to the cross, that led to the goal, etc, etc. The sense of instant euphoria will be gone. It will kill the game we know stone dead. Everyone looking around, wondering, “has it gone to VAR, hasn’t it?” The game, this fantastic game, complete with with human error, will be finished if we go ahead with VAR. Leave it alone.
and johnny evans pulling trent alexander-arnold is also a fact, but again you are on about bent refs and not VAR
It's of course v.a.r. as well, because those incidents have to be reviewed in order to arrive at a correct decision.
Otherwise var will be a token, meaningless exercise open to incompetence & corruption.
To review everything takes ages. Which will spoil the game.
Are you being deliberately obtuse and patronising or are deliberately missing the point. Very tiresome.There not going to review throw ins etc. It's for match changing incidents, which has been shown in the Kelechi/Barry/West Brom's 3rd goal incidents. All of which VAR corrected or confirmed as ok. The glaring error was the Bernardo goal, which didn't have VAR available. It's highlighted in a handful of matches, how the referee team can get so much wrong. Whether that's because of poor refs or something more sinister is up for debate.
No system is perfect but there's so many cameras at elite games these days most things are captured.
Can I ask how you felt when Bernardo scored on Sunday. Guess you cheered like me. Not gutted when it was incorrectly ruled out through the officials. Something VAR would have corrected?
I'm a south stand season ticket holder, don't go away as much these days as in my 40s, but earned my spurs in the 80s/90s.... god I miss Grimsby!!
If it was Aguero you would be appealing for a penalty & you would be right. You would also want a penalty for the foul on the no2 who is quite clearly having his arm.gripped by the Liverpool defender.
Replay 5:30
http://hoofoot.com/?match=Liverpool_2_-_3_West_Brom_2018_01_27
Which is exactly the excuse they would make, in order to make their job easier.
And supposedly the Liverpool player holding the WBA players arm at the near post is now legal as well then ? We just ignore that one ?
All this is fine if you are happy to see this happen to City & turn a blind eye to all these litlle fouls when Utd get them ignored & then get a pen for City doing the same thing 20 mins later.
I'm really not.
in that particular instance, yes it would take longer because of the very nature of it being a crowd scene, but that is not the fault of VAR.
if you are happy enough to accept wrong decisions to keep the flow of the game going then fair enough, just don't complain about them and by the they wont be all bent decisions
Are you being deliberately obtuse and patronising or are deliberately missing the point. Very tiresome.
I'm not 'happy' about wrong decisions, I just don't want the same fucking biased morons making them, as they see fit, with a video. Which is what wil happen & is happening now.
It will just swap one set of shite for another. But the chances of corruption are much higher.
If you can get a fucking robot operating it I've no problem with it
Never enough in any of those instances of to give anything I'm afraid
forget the "biased morons" for a minute, are you happy for human error even though it could be corrected just so you can keep the flow of the game?
EXACTLY!
Now you are getting it. One incident is not more important than another. They ALL need reviewing, or non at all.
Get rid of it.
Yes. If the alternative is never being able to celebrate a goal because a minor offence might rule it out
If next season is like that Anfield game, I'm not paying for a season ticket for the one after. It's shite & it isn't going to stop mistakes, just alter the way they are made.
I would use it purely for the 'clear & obvious' decisions, like when a ref misses a deliberate handball (not a ball to hand marginal one, a Thierry Henry style obvious cheat) or a really blatant piece of rugby style holding (not a minor shirtpull which requires a dive, like Salah).
Also pens awarded in real time could be reviewed for dives & violent conduct could be punished.
These things would still occasionally result in mistakes but most would be ok & the game wouldn't be on hold after goals unless there had been an 'obvious' incident.
Then it should also be 3 people reviewing it, not 1.
Of course there different.... no ones arsed about an incident 10 yards from the ball, while every should be bothered about some one obstructing the keeper in an offside position which hampers the keeper saving the header....
So the push in the back on Barry & the foul on the WBA no 2 should have been reviewed first then ?
Your contradicting yourself now. All you've said for pages is Barry was pushed (debatable decision at best, not clear) but now say it should only be used for clear and obvious decisions. That's what it did, the VAR was used for the offside on Barry. A clear and obvious decision. At least stick to your view point if that's what you believe
Not Barry obstructing and backing into the keeper and reaching around to grab the keeper then?
do you want every single contentious decision reviewed?this wonderful game with human error that could cost you a title, a cup or a place in the league that could be corrected in a relative short space of time once its refined
i just don't believe you would rather the game to "flow" than get it right
are you happy for goals like Bernardo's to be chalked off for the sake of the flow
Lol.
Salah was 40 yards off the ball!
You are just making up imaginary rules now. A foul is a foul. In the area it's a pen, hence the var ref giving Salah a pen for a light pull on the shoulder ; a dive before the ball even came in & sailed 10 yards above where he would have been.
Enjoy it when we get shit on mate. I won't.