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km09 said:
why is everyone screaming for giving kids a chance.... lets start the eds team v basel and get knocked out but hey we giving kids a chance..
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Because for them the fixation is to emulate the rags and as part of that, they have to have our very own class of 92. Nothing else seems to matter and they can't see the wood for the trees. Sad really.
 
Just taken a look at what we'd have if we get Mahrez and Fred and I think it's fair to our squad would look fucking ridiculous...and I love it!

Ederson, Bravo, Gunn, Muric
Walker, Danilo
Mendy, Delph, Zinchenko
Otamendi, Stones, Laporte, Kompany, Mangala, Adarabioyo
Fernandinho, Fred*, Yaya
De Bruyne, D. Silva, Gundogan, B. Silva, Foden
Sane, Sterling, Mahrez*, Brahim
Aguero, G. Jesus

Now I know we're going to sell/let players go, Yaya, Mangala and a couple of the youngsters will be sold/loaned (either in Jan or the summer) but looking at that squad really is unbelievable.

Think we'll have to enter a B team in the Premier League.
 
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goalmole said:
Because for them the fixation is to emulate the rags and as part of that, they have to have our very own class of 92. Nothing else seems to matter and they can't see the wood for the trees. Sad really.
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Again, because advocating that one or two young players (already in and around the first team) could do a job while Sane is out is, of course, the same as saying every position should be filled by a player from the EDS/Academy.

Argumentive fallacies are strong tonight.
 
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From Telegraph's John Percy:
Mahrez is pushing for a move to the runaway Premier League leaders on deadline day with Pep Guardiola prepared to pay up to £60million for the former PFA Player of the Year.

But Leicester’s Thai owners, the Srivaddhanaprabha family, are maintaining a hardline stance on Mahrez and insist he is not for sale, especially at such a late stage in the transfer window. And while Leicester have no plans to sell the Algeria international it is understood that it would require a fee of around £90million to even raise the prospect of a deal being done.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rges-late-man-city-transfer-target-leicester/
 
if FFP2 limits transfers to 100 mil net you would assume that transfer fees will go down.
So why wouldn't they cash in now, cos they wont be getting 80 -90 mil in the summer under the new rules.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Again, because advocating that one or two young players (already in and around the first team) could do a job while Sane is out is, of course, the same as saying every position should be filled by a player from the EDS/Acadamy.

Argumentive fallacies are strong tonight.
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If we find ourselves left with no other choice than to throw a 17 year old kid in to the deep end then so be it, but to argue that we should pass up the chance to sign an experienced player, a League medal winner and former POTY at that, just coming into his prime years, in a season where we find ourselves in a realistic position of winning 4 competitions, when we will be playing probably twice a week till the end of the season, when injuries are piling up, is beyond stupid. Do you honestly think that one of our youngsters, as good as they are, could come in and do a job to the same level as Mahrez could. Give us a break
 
goalmole said:
If we find ourselves left with no other choice than to throw a 17 year old kid in to the deep end then so be it, but to argue that we should pass up the chance to sign an experienced player, a League medal winner and former POTY at that, just coming into his prime years, in a season where we find ourselves in a realistic position of winning 4 competitions, when we will be playing probably twice a week till the end of the season, when injuries are piling up, is beyond stupid. Do you honestly think that one of our youngsters, as good as they are, could come in and do a job to the same level as Mahrez could. Give us a break
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I do not understand this certainty regarding the job Mahrez could do and the job Diaz (or Foden, when he is fit) could not do. This immense confidence than one will be successful and the other will not be.

What evidence do you have of either in the context of playing in our system, against opposition employing tactics generally unique to us (and not implemented against, say, Leicester), with our current squad (and including our defensive weakness on our left side with our current injuries, which means we likely need a player committed to box-to-box play, for example)?

I am just one who understands that we do not have any evidence either way at this point so both outcomes are equally plausible. And saying otherwise is elevating one’s opinion to fact, which is juvenile, rampant argumentive fallacies aside.
 
aguerooooo said:
By putting his cards on the table with a transfer request. he is i am sure giving his all to join us I dont for one minute think he has any passion or had a longing desire to join us. but he is neither blind or stupid. We are a team which at present are making most of football sit up and notice trying to accomplish the quadruple with a manager considered one of if not the best. IF by tommorow night he is still at leicester its most likely due to his club pricing him out of the deal But fair play to him because it sounds like unlike Sanchez. he put more fight in to becoming a city player
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I very much value that trait in a player and I think that value isn’t rated properly by most. Nice post.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I do not understand this certainty regarding the job Mahrez could do and the job Diaz (or Foden, when he is fit) could not do. This immense confidence than one will be successful and the other will not be.

What evidence do you have of either in the context of playing in our system, against opposition employing tactics generally unique to us (and not implemented against, say, Leicester), with our current squad (and including our defensive weakness on our left side with our current injuries, which means we likely need a player committed to box-to-box play, for example)?

I am just one who understands that we do not have any evidence either way at this point so both outcomes are equally plausible. And saying otherwise is elevating one’s opinion to fact, which is juvenile.
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I think most people would recognise that Foden and Diaz are not comparable on any level, be that skill, experience, strength, guile to Mahrez.
I'm all for giving youth a chance but not at the expense of sacrificing any potential success the club may have.
 
goalmole said:
I think most people would recognise that Foden and Diaz are not comparable on any level, be that skill, experience, strength, guile to Mahrez.
I'm all for giving youth a chance but not at the expense of sacrificing any potential success the club may have.
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I think most people would be incorrect in their assessment (though, perhaps not ultimately wrong, mind)—with no evidence of how either player (or players) would actually play consistently in the current state of the squad and in the context of our remaining matches, it means they could be very right or they could be very wrong, or anywhere else on that outcome continuum.

My point has been (throughout this thread) that I am not convinced he is the right player for our system, especially given our current defensive weakness on that side (as he has never really shown himself to be interested in pressing tactics or defending in general). Now, he may change all that if he comes to us, but he may not. I have no evidence either way so I only have that weakness—and the general tactics of opponents—to think of when trying to identify a player that may best assist us with our run-in across all competitions. I do think Diaz and Foden could do a job on that side and develop with the team. I also wonder how that money could be spent elsewhere; it’s not my money, of course, but as rich as we are, we do not have bottomless coffers (especially when there are external constraints placed on us by corruption-friendly UEFA).

I may very well be wrong, I will freely admit that, as my overall confidence in either scenario is fairly low. But, again, that is because I do not proport to know that one is definitely better than the other. As I said before, I just do not understand the absolute certainty that he will be successful with us.
 
Mahrez does have his days but... I don’t know. I don’t like the fact that Mahrez clearly doesn’t workout and the fact he has games that he doesn’t work hard for the team. I understand Mahrez is vastly more experienced but I’d rather Diaz get the time. I’ve been really impressed with what I’ve seen from Diaz this year. Think Diaz’s ability standouts out even when playing with in the first team.
 
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Completely agree with this assessment. We have seen how much hunger Foden showed when he was given whatever chances he had. Same we can expect from Diaz, plus Bernardo has hardly had any playtime in PL this season. Would love to see him as well. Plus Zinchenko too can play as left winger as soon as Delph is available. We really have to show our youth players how much they mean to the club. Pep and Khaldoon can talk all they want in the pre/post season interviews but unless these guys are given gametime its all talks, no action.
Also, not sure how come all fans are justifying the links giving "quadruple" as the reason after dismissing talks of it by media as just hype.
And if Pep cannot change his style to suit the players available then he is no different than Mancini or Pellegrini (Pep is definitely best but this is just a reasoning to justify my bigger point).
SebastianBlue said:
I think most people would be incorrect in their assessment (though, perhaps not ultimately wrong, mind)—with no evidence of how either player (or players) would actually play consistently in the current state of the squad and in the context of our remaining matches, it means they could be very right or they could be very wrong, or anywhere else on that outcome continuum.

My point has been (throughout this thread) that I am not convinced he is the right player for our system, especially given our current defensive weakness on that side (as he has never really shown himself to be interested in pressing tactics or defending in general). Now, he may change all that if he comes to us, but he may not. I have no evidence either way so I only have that weakness—and the general tactics of opponents—to think of when trying to identify a player that may best assist us with our run-in across all competitions. I do think Diaz and Foden could do a job on that side and develop with the team. I also wonder how that money could be spent elsewhere; it’s not my money, of course, but as rich as we are, we do not have bottomless coffers (especially when there are external constraints placed on us by corruption-friendly UEFA).

I may very well be wrong, I will freely admit that, as my overall confidence in either scenario is fairly low. But, again, that is because I do not proport to know that one is definitely better than the other. As I said before, I just do not understand the absolute certainty that he will be successful with us.
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Silva_Spell said:
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What's special about October? Seems a random time to start.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I do not understand this certainty regarding the job Mahrez could do and the job Diaz (or Foden, when he is fit) could not do. This immense confidence than one will be successful and the other will not be.

What evidence do you have of either in the context of playing in our system, against opposition employing tactics generally unique to us (and not implemented against, say, Leicester), with our current squad (and including our defensive weakness on our left side with our current injuries, which means we likely need a player committed to box-to-box play, for example)?

I am just one who understands that we do not have any evidence either way at this point so both outcomes are equally plausible. And saying otherwise is elevating one’s opinion to fact, which is juvenile, rampant argumentive fallacies aside.
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When you add all that up, it's easy to see why Zaha is the superior choice (:
 
City obviously wouldn't be in for him if any of 1.missing out on Sanchez 2. Jesus's injury 3. Sane's injury hadn't happened. So with an eye on winning the four this season it says that Guardiola doesn't think Diaz or Foden (also injured) can do what Mahrez might do between now and May. I disagree but it's his call, though I hope the club says no to Leicester holding them to ransom over it like they refused to be dictated to by Sanchez. If he does sign I bet he goes into shock from the first few training sessions because he's often looked an idle bugger. So overall I'm hoping it falls through, and either way he's still got ridiculous hair.
 
Citizen_leo said:
Completely agree with this assessment. We have seen how much hunger Foden showed when he was given whatever chances he had. Same we can expect from Diaz, plus Bernardo has hardly had any playtime in PL this season. Would love to see him as well. Plus Zinchenko too can play as left winger as soon as Delph is available. We really have to show our youth players how much they mean to the club. Pep and Khaldoon can talk all they want in the pre/post season interviews but unless these guys are given gametime its all talks, no action.
Also, not sure how come all fans are justifying the links giving "quadruple" as the reason after dismissing talks of it by media as just hype.
And if Pep cannot change his style to suit the players available then he is no different than Mancini or Pellegrini (Pep is definitely best but this is just a reasoning to justify my bigger point).
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Our front 3 right as it stands is Raheem on the left, Aguero, Bernardo. Our rotation for those 3 spots is Brahim. Zinchenko is a midfielder. That's not sustainable for 6-7 weeks (with Jesus eventually returning) unless we plan to run those three into the ground. I'm not saying the answer is a huge signing but depth needs to be added anyway particularly a backup/rotational option for Leroy. If signing Mahrez can push Raheem to the left occasionally to give Sane rest when he needs it I'm all for it. Like I said I don't know if a huge signing is needed but one certainly is atm.
 
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