Veganism

[Bilboblue]

As they don't have a brain, central nervous system or pain receptors it would be anatomically not possible for them to feel pain.

Do you think peeling a potato is the same as skinning a dog alive then?

How ridiculous.

The potato has already been separated from it's life support system.

Wtf is wrong with you vegans on this thread, that thinks you have the right to TELL us what we should be eating? Get to fuck.

As for @kiam06 he has history for being a bellend.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

To be fair at least Juan doesn't come across as a conspiracist unlike the other fella.

 

[inchy14]

As they don't have a brain, central nervous system or pain receptors it would be anatomically not possible for them to feel pain.

Do you think peeling a potato is the same as skinning a dog alive then?

Plants have all 3. Not as developed as a human beings, but then, neither are those of a sheep.

A potato is actually a mature seed and hence waste produce, not a plant. A better analogy would be "do you think peeling a potato is the same as picking up dog shit then?" To which the answer would be no, because it's still a really stupid analogy.

Thanks, saved me the trouble.

 

[aguero93:20]

@Juan King quick question mate, how would you deal with a rat infestation in your house?

 

[urban genie]

As they don't have a brain, central nervous system or pain receptors it would be anatomically not possible for them to feel pain.

Do you think peeling a potato is the same as skinning a dog alive then?

As no one skins dogs alive that is an ott example for effect .

Also followers of Jainism would dissagree with peeling the potato being not harmful to the potato whose ability to sprout shows a sign of a higher being

 

[Juan King]

Whilst i accept you have your opinion on this and respect it even if i dont agree, talk of those you dont agree with accepting dogs being skinned alive is frankly fucking stupid and bang out of order.

Lets keep this civil please.

I've been civil all the way through the thread. People are asking hypothetical questions about roses feeling pain as some kind of justifcation for killing sentient animals. I have never said that people I don't agree with, accept dogs being skinned alive. I asked a hypothetical question which emphasises that there is clearly a difference between peeling a potato and harming a sentient animal such as a dog. Your reaction has proved that there is a difference, if it was the same you would have reacted about me talking about peeling the potato rather than getting wound up about mentioning harm to a dog.

 

[west didsblue]

It is a dog eat dog world, just because you feel safe at the moment doesn't mean it isn't true. We don't regard human life never mind other animals, we will be top dogs until we encounter something else one day and we become the food. Hopefully the fat Americans will keep them full whilst we escape.

Where can you find these canine cannibals?

 

[Juan King]

Plants have all 3. Not as developed as a human beings, but then, neither are those of a sheep.

A potato is actually a mature seed and hence waste produce, not a plant. A better analogy would be "do you think peeling a potato is the same as picking up dog shit then?" To which the answer would be no, because it's still a really stupid analogy.

What is your point about nettles? Are you against hurting plants?

 

[Blue Til Death]

As City fans we ate shit for 30 odd years, we therefore reserve the right to eat what the fuck we want now... !
Licking the dew off a vegan lettuce leaf won't cut it for me though, my farts smell bad enough as it is...!

 

[Juan King]

How ridiculous.

The potato has already been separated from it's life support system.

Wtf is wrong with you vegans on this thread, that thinks you have the right to TELL us what we should be eating? Get to fuck.

As for @kiam06 he has history for being a bellend.

I haven't told anyone what to eat. It's a discussion on veganism on a veganism thread. If you don't want to read it don't click on the thread.

 

[aguero93:20]

What is your point about nettles? Are you against hurting plants?

I'm about the same with hurting plants as I am with hurting animals, birds, insects or fish. If there's a tangible benefit in doing so I'll do it with no qualms.
Weeds in the garden? Poisoned and binned.
Tree blocking out light to the house? That's what the chainsaw is for.
Feel like eating veg, no problem.
Feel like eating fruit, no problem.
Meat, Fowl, Fish? No problem there either.
Pests in the house? Dead.
Even had Seagulls try to nest on the roof a few years back, they're all dead too, they bothered my dogs.
Would I hurt the dogs? No, I love the fuckers.
Would I hurt the cat? Definitely, if I could catch the ****.
Do I give a fuck about the rights of sheep or cattle in a slaughterhouse? No, they're domesticated, they wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for humans and they threw their lot in with ours thousands of years ago. If you'd ever worked with horses you'd know the fucking difference between a tame species and a captive one mate.

 

[Bilboblue]

I haven't told anyone what to eat. It's a discussion on veganism on a veganism thread. If you don't want to read it don't click on the thread.

I'll click on whatever I like, and read whatever I like.

As the other lad pointed out, at least you aren't as bad as Father Kiam, and the Holy Mellow Joe.

 

[Juan King]

@Juan King quick question mate, how would you deal with a rat infestation in your house?

Veganism is about avoiding harm to animals as far as possible and practical, so I would do the best thing I could do in the situation after looking at all the alternatives.

 

[aguero93:20]

Veganism is about avoiding harm to animals as far as possible and practical, so I would do the best thing I could do in the situation after looking at all the alternatives.

So you'd poison them then?

 

[blueinsa]

I'm about the same with hurting plants as I am with hurting animals, birds, insects or fish. If there's a tangible benefit in doing so I'll do it with no qualms.
Weeds in the garden? Poisoned and binned.
Tree blocking out light to the house? That's what the chainsaw is for.
Feel like eating veg, no problem.
Feel like eating fruit, no problem.
Meat, Fowl, Fish? No problem there either.
Pests in the house? Dead.
Even had Seagulls try to nest on the roof a few years back, they're all dead too, they bothered my dogs.
Would I hurt the dogs? No, I love the fuckers.
Would I hurt the cat? Definitely, if I could catch the ****.
Do I give a fuck about the rights of sheep or cattle in a slaughterhouse? No, they're domesticated, they wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for humans and they threw their lot in with ours thousands of years ago. If you'd ever worked with horses you'd know the fucking difference between a tame species and a captive one mate.

Bravo sir......bravo!

 

[Juan King]

I'm about the same with hurting plants as I am with hurting animals, birds, insects or fish. If there's a tangible benefit in doing so I'll do it with no qualms.
Weeds in the garden? Poisoned and binned.
Tree blocking out light to the house? That's what the chainsaw is for.
Feel like eating veg, no problem.
Feel like eating fruit, no problem.
Meat, Fowl, Fish? No problem there either.
Pests in the house? Dead.
Even had Seagulls try to nest on the roof a few years back, they're all dead too, they bothered my dogs.
Would I hurt the dogs? No, I love the fuckers.
Would I hurt the cat? Definitely, if I could catch the ****.
Do I give a fuck about the rights of sheep or cattle in a slaughterhouse? No, they're domesticated, they wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for humans and they threw their lot in with ours thousands of years ago. If you'd ever worked with horses you'd know the fucking difference between a tame species and a captive one mate.

Dogs are domesticated though, so why is it not OK to hurt or kill them but it's OK to kill cattle because they are domesticated? I find it interesting that people are conditioned to love dogs but happy to eat pigs, which are just as intelligent than dogs. I would look to not hurt anything unless I had too.

 

[Metal Biker]

Veganism is about avoiding harm to animals as far as possible and practical, so I would do the best thing I could do in the situation after looking at all the alternatives.

Really? Here's me thinking it was a diet consisting of not consuming or using animal derived products. Didn't realise it had evolved into a political a ethical ideology.

 

[aguero93:20]

Dogs are domesticated though, so why is it not OK to hurt or kill them but it's OK to kill cattle because they are domesticated? I find it interesting that people are conditioned to love dogs but happy to eat pigs, which are just as intelligent than dogs. I would look to not hurt anything unless I had too.

Because the deal with dogs was that we'd share food with them in return for help hunting and protecting our homes.

The deal with livestock was that we'd keep the nasty predators away while they ate and bred in return for killing and eating a manageable number of them.

On top of that, I love my dogs and wouldn't particularly enjoy killing and eating them, they're family.
If you don't understand that part, you're probably a sociopath.

 

[Metal Biker]

Dogs are domesticated though, so why is it not OK to hurt or kill them but it's OK to kill cattle because they are domesticated? I find it interesting that people are conditioned to love dogs but happy to eat pigs, which are just as intelligent than dogs. I would look to not hurt anything unless I had too.

We cannot eat dogs because dogs eat an exclusively meat based diet, pigs and cows do not. Law of nature; don't eat animals that also eat meat. Unless you want your DNA unravelled like a messy ball of string.

 

[Juan King]

Really? Here's me thinking it was a diet consisting of not consuming or using animal derived products. Didn't realise it had evolved into a political a ethical ideology.

Vegan society definition:

"Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."