You were obviously on vacation during the great Fraudiola campaign of Nov/Dec 2016. As for Maureen you’ve also forgotten the rewriting of history this season to the effect that Pep inherited a team full of stars, but Jose inherited a squad in transition.....?
But that is three managers now given a tough time. What happened to this united media bias I keep reading about on this forum?
Take away our view on Mourinho and the football and put yourself as a united fan for one minute (ok make it a second) and you might be wondering why your manager is getting so much abuse when he took a team unable to qualify for champs lge football, won two trophies in his first year, 2nd following season and in the Fa cup final. Bias can be seen in so many ways dependent upon the prism you look through.
Incidentally agree with you about the little englander thing. Its all part of the narrative of the Premiership being the ‘toughest’ league and I think prople did not want Pep to smash it. Fortunately for us he has.
I saw what Samuel said,it was remarkably candid,if anyone can find that clip i'd like to see it againYou make some good points on this thread Frank and serve as a welcome counterbalance to some of the madder conspiracy theorists, but if you’re trying to tell me that United and City get equable treatment and respect from the media, then you’ve become fixated by a tree and lost sight of the woods completely. If you accept the premise that newspapers make their money from selling advertising space attached to hundreds of deliberately provocative clickbait articles, then you should surely also accept that they maximise those incomes by filling space with puff pieces about the clubs with the biggest fanbases. Martin Samuel told us all precisely that on Sunday Supplement this season
You make some good points on this thread Frank and serve as a welcome counterbalance to some of the madder conspiracy theorists, but if you’re trying to tell me that United and City get equable treatment and respect from the media, then you’ve become fixated by a tree and lost sight of the woods completely. If you accept the premise that newspapers make their money from selling advertising space attached to hundreds of deliberately provocative clickbait articles, then you should surely also accept that they maximise those incomes by filling space with puff pieces about the clubs with the biggest fanbases. Martin Samuel told us all precisely that on Sunday Supplement this season
But that is three managers now given a tough time. What happened to this united media bias I keep reading about on this forum?
Take away our view on Mourinho and the football and put yourself as a united fan for one minute (ok make it a second) and you might be wondering why your manager is getting so much abuse when he took a team unable to qualify for champs lge football, won two trophies in his first year, 2nd following season and in the Fa cup final. Bias can be seen in so many ways dependent upon the prism you look through.
Incidentally agree with you about the little englander thing. Its all part of the narrative of the Premiership being the ‘toughest’ league and I think prople did not want Pep to smash it. Fortunately for us he has.
On the BBC main website front page this morning (the news front page not BBC Sport) is the earth-shattering story that Eric Cantona is returning to the Pit of Misery for a charity game. If ever you needed proof that the BBC was now an offshoot of the rag PR department, this is it.
I posted that a few pages back its a business fact United will get more coverage than ourselves and that will not change until our popularity levels increase. Its pointless bemoaning as bias United getting more coverage as no independent business has to give us parity and similarly its not bias that say West Ham/Everton/Chelsea (arguably) do not receive the same anount of coverage as us.
We do suffer from a lot of the lads bantz nonsense, empty seats etc. Its difficult to gauge a comparison to other clubs without following them and their forums but I can concede we probably get more. The lines though are not as distinct as many like to make out.
It has been said many times, the people in charge of the media grew up in an era of wall to wall rags. The BBC are no different. They are supposed to be unbiased but if you are in charge you can do what you like if your bosses are rags also.
And the BBC do still need webclicks to justify the website, and also for foreign access which does have adverts.
It is a pretty accurate summation but I also think United due to their extent of coverage get more criticism also, particularly their managers like Moyes, LVG and Mourinho especially when things go wrong.
The media at the end of the day is a business and we have no more right to expect parity with United for coverage than Burnley have a right to demand parity with ourselves. As businesses, business decisions will dictate the extent of the coverage. It will only change as our popularity grows.
So same question without the deflection of humour.
Have united and their style of football got more praise than City and Peps this year?
They have to justify their part of the budget.The remit of the BBC is not to drive click bait.
It is supposed to be impartial, because we all fund it.
It does not rely on advertising or clicks to generate revenue.
i thought the appointment of peg was even more sickening, it literally was on every couple of minutes on sky, i remember because i was off sick at the time and i was watching ssn , it made me almost vomit , i ended up phoning sky by the end of the day complaining, i know i need to get a life :-)The wankathon that accompanied Moyes appointment was possibly the most nauseating I’ve ever encountered, and I would maintain that the boot only truly went in with United’s tacit endorsement