Yaya says Pep "does not like African players" - Pep says "he's lying and knows it"

GortonBlue62 said:
Political correctness dictates that in any situation you identify the biggest victim and ignore logic, decency and common sense and put all your support behind the 'victim'.

It must be obvious, even to the Guardian, that Yaya (the black man) is wrong and Pep (the white man) is being unfairly traduced.

So the dilemma for 'your paper' is that if it draws attention to the fact that Yaya is a knobhead who is attempting to destroy the reputation of an innocent man, it could be regarded as racist.

Hope this helps (and yes, I do read the Telegraph and the Times).
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Or it could just be that they split out reporting of the news to editorial or journalistic opinion, which any decent newspaper really should do.
 
I have just read the Guardian article in full and to be honest it just seems to be another in a long list of Toure's rants that have become common place over his time at the Club. I think he is a narcissist who constantly demands to be the centre of attention. The Club have always treated him with respect and held him in the highest regard, (take this extract from the Guardian article "To mark his departure last month the City chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, arranged for the club’s main training pitch to be named after Touré in recognition of his contribution. A tiled mural of the midfielder celebrating his winning goal against Stoke City in the 2011 FA Cup final also stands as a permanent memorial,") yet time and time again he had disrespected the Club, its Owners and Managers and most importantly, its fans.

Goodbye and good riddance Yaya, you will not be missed.
 
I hope the club makes a very strong statement against these allegations, and revoke any privileges he may have ie season ticket for life
 
Haven't read the full interview, but from the quotes I've seen, it sounds like he's just having a go at Pep, not City. Of course, Pep as manager is an important part of the club at this time, but I think a few are extending the attack to make it about the club.

Personally, I'd be surprised if it were true, Pep's has frozen out and sidelined African and non-African players alike. For every Yaya there's a Hart, for every Eto'o there's a Deco.

I'd suggest that Yaya is bitter about initially being frozen out last season and then with the limited role he had thereafter. He's looking for justification and his ego won't allow him to admit that it was because his attitude, fitness and athleticism were lacking. So he's looking for a non-footballing reason and has come up with the idea that Pep doesn't like him because he's African.

I don't like it, but I'm not going to judge him for it. I'm a white male from a working/middle class background and have very little idea what it's like to be part of a social, cultural or ethnic group which has historically suffered from persecution or discrimination. If someone does belong to one of those groups, it must be very tempting for them to assume that that's the reason they're failing, rather than admit to themselves it's because they're just not good enough or working hard enough, etc. Especially when they've been as good as Yaya was.

On a side note, whatever he says off the field, he'll still be a legend in my eyes for the things he did on the field.
 
I hope the club wait as long as possible before they make a statement. The silence will be killing him and his vermin representative Seluk.
 
kenzie115 said:
Haven't read the full interview, but from the quotes I've seen, it sounds like he's just having a go at Pep, not City. Of course, Pep as manager is an important part of the club at this time, but I think a few are extending the attack to make it about the club.

Personally, I'd be surprised if it were true, Pep's has frozen out and sidelined African and non-African players alike. For every Yaya there's a Hart, for every Eto'o there's a Deco.

I'd suggest that Yaya is bitter about initially being frozen out last season and then with the limited role he had thereafter. He's looking for justification and his ego won't allow him to admit that it was because his attitude, fitness and athleticism were lacking. So he's looking for a non-footballing reason and has come up with the idea that Pep doesn't like him because he's African.

I don't like it, but I'm not going to judge him for it. I'm a white male from a working/middle class background and have very little idea what it's like to be part of a social, cultural or ethnic group which has historically suffered from persecution or discrimination. If someone does belong to one of those groups, it must be very tempting for them to assume that that's the reason they're failing, rather than admit to themselves it's because they're just not good enough or working hard enough, etc. Especially when they've been as good as Yaya was.

On a side note, whatever he says off the field, he'll still be a legend in my eyes for the things he did on the field.
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If your last line is anything to go by then you are more than happy for any player to take the piss out of the club. He was paid to do them things on the field, paid very well in fact.
 
kenzie115 said:
Haven't read the full interview, but from the quotes I've seen, it sounds like he's just having a go at Pep, not City. Of course, Pep as manager is an important part of the club at this time, but I think a few are extending the attack to make it about the club.

Personally, I'd be surprised if it were true, Pep's has frozen out and sidelined African and non-African players alike. For every Yaya there's a Hart, for every Eto'o there's a Deco.

I'd suggest that Yaya is bitter about initially being frozen out last season and then with the limited role he had thereafter. He's looking for justification and his ego won't allow him to admit that it was because his attitude, fitness and athleticism were lacking. So he's looking for a non-footballing reason and has come up with the idea that Pep doesn't like him because he's African.

I don't like it, but I'm not going to judge him for it. I'm a white male from a working/middle class background and have very little idea what it's like to be part of a social, cultural or ethnic group which has historically suffered from persecution or discrimination. If someone does belong to one of those groups, it must be very tempting for them to assume that that's the reason they're failing, rather than admit to themselves it's because they're just not good enough or working hard enough, etc. Especially when they've been as good as Yaya was.

On a side note, whatever he says off the field, he'll still be a legend in my eyes for the things he did on the field.
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He got a years free wages hopefully not the full amount. The only reason I saw for his presence was to instill a bit of experience into the set up behind the scene. Clearly he was at best a neutral influence and perhaps a malign one. Big waste of money as for the end of season party not sure he deserved it after this. No longer a legend I'm afraid. Indeed unless he make a quick apology not sure he will get a warm reception when and if he returns in the future.
 
This is exactly the shit you dont dignify with a response. You let general public opinion show it up for the classless spiteful crap it is.
Wait for it to die down.
Then a bit later, without any attention, remove the mosaic and any remaining references or pictures of him from the training ground as a quiet thanks but f*ck you
 
OntarioBlue said:
I have just read the Guardian article in full and to be honest it just seems to be another in a long list of Toure's rants that have become common place over his time at the Club. I think he is a narcissist who constantly demands to be the centre of attention. The Club have always treated him with respect and held him in the highest regard, (take this extract from the Guardian article "To mark his departure last month the City chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, arranged for the club’s main training pitch to be named after Touré in recognition of his contribution. A tiled mural of the midfielder celebrating his winning goal against Stoke City in the 2011 FA Cup final also stands as a permanent memorial,") yet time and time again he had disrespected the Club, its Owners and Managers and most importantly, its fans.

Goodbye and good riddance Yaya, you will not be missed.
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I think most media outlets would think the same. Heard on the radio this morning, sports reporter mention the comments from Toure, but said (To paraphrase) in Guardiola's defence, hes trying to sign Marhez. People still remember all his posturing, during his/his agents many outbursts, and see it as a parting shot, with no substance.

It really is a shame, as he was an absolute beast for many year, and these do stain his legacy with us a bit.

In all honesty, Toure hasnt had the same affect on games for a least his last two seasons, and when he played, he left us exposed, so even on a playing basis alone, he wouldn't have made it in the team, irrelavent of Guardiola's supposed bias.
 
kenzie115 said:
Haven't read the full interview, but from the quotes I've seen, it sounds like he's just having a go at Pep, not City. Of course, Pep as manager is an important part of the club at this time, but I think a few are extending the attack to make it about the club.

Personally, I'd be surprised if it were true, Pep's has frozen out and sidelined African and non-African players alike. For every Yaya there's a Hart, for every Eto'o there's a Deco.

I'd suggest that Yaya is bitter about initially being frozen out last season and then with the limited role he had thereafter. He's looking for justification and his ego won't allow him to admit that it was because his attitude, fitness and athleticism were lacking. So he's looking for a non-footballing reason and has come up with the idea that Pep doesn't like him because he's African.

I don't like it, but I'm not going to judge him for it. I'm a white male from a working/middle class background and have very little idea what it's like to be part of a social, cultural or ethnic group which has historically suffered from persecution or discrimination. If someone does belong to one of those groups, it must be very tempting for them to assume that that's the reason they're failing, rather than admit to themselves it's because they're just not good enough or working hard enough, etc. Especially when they've been as good as Yaya was.

On a side note, whatever he says off the field, he'll still be a legend in my eyes for the things he did on the field.
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It's like you read my mind...


Been a while for bad press since Sterlings Gun Tattoo keep it up media...
 
Why did I ever used to get players names on my shirts? That’s 2 Toure ones to the charity shop.

Anyone know how I can donate them to these African shamans?
 
If its real, think this highlights two things: -

1. They know Toure, has a perception to many as very "money orientated", and are trying to change that.
2. No one has yet even contacted Toure, about signing him. Could still do a job for some, but seems they have been scared off by his either attitude, perceived cash demands, or both.
 
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