Newcastle fans

I’ve found Geordies to be all mouth. If there was a second club proper in Newcastle akin to Sheffield / Bristol then NUFC would be Championship also rans at best. They’ve grossly underachieved given their potential.
 
zeddie said:
Never seen racial abuse at the etihad in 16 years.. thats so sad :( What race was it directed at? Why would someone whos a blue racially abuse another blue? Terrible..
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Sorry, you misunderstand me, earlier in the thread it was explained it was a Newcastle fan/s racially abusing a City fan, as I understand it the City lads (mum?) was giving the stewards seat numbers of the guilty party in the away end which a City fan took exception too believing she was reporting City fans
 
bluestevei said:
yesterday it was a bit like the old days in ss 3rd tier, there fans was mouthy all game and then near the end, a couple of there fans tried to jump into the city fans, one was throwing punches but he got a few thrown back at him and he fell back into his own fans but got collared and thrown out. On facebook a few city fans said it kicked off outside the ground as well. but I walk up aston rd so didn't see any bother but talked to a couple of fans going that way and they said its getting worse with there fans now, thought they was better then this, and only rags and scousers acted like this, I even was called a manc bastard before game but it was because I called a Newcastle fan a sunderland fan but that was banter
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Callin' a mackem a geordie, and vice versa, is much worse than calling a north easterner all the foul names from the farmyard!
 
BimboBob said:
Never had a problem with them if I'm honest. Had a few nights out in Newcastle and feel their pain. A big club criminally run for decades. Remind you of anything?
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It’s not the club, it’s the fans.

Throughout our lows(and highs) we’ve never had their arragoance or attitude of ‘we’re the best football fans in the World’. ‘We’re a bigger club than you’. And the irony of chanting ‘where were you when you were shit’, ‘empty seats’, and being serious and deluded about it. You can bundle Newcastle fans in with Liverpool and Celtic fans about their perceived self-importance. And (apperently) everybody loves a Geordie?
 
jrb said:
It’s not the club, it’s the fans.

Throughout our lows(and highs) we’ve never had their arragoance or attitude of ‘we’re the best football fans in the World’. ‘We’re a bigger club than you’. And the irony of chanting ‘where were you when you were shit’, ‘empty seats’, and being serious and deluded about it. You can bundle Newcastle fans in with Liverpool and Celtic fans about their perceived self-importance. And (apperently) everybody loves a Geordie?
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and that's it nailed to be fair! They're a one club city as well with only Sunderland and to a lesser extent Middlesborough to compete with, whilst we have United, Liverpool, Everton, Bolton, Oldham and many others within our catchment. Totally different gravy.
 
Trojan63 said:
Anyone who thinks City “won the lottery” need to take a closer look at the facts. Soon after we moved into , what was at the time , The City Of Manchester stadium , we had a guy on the board called Alistair MacIntosh. The club was looking for investment , possibly from abroad , and sent MacIntosh on a 6 month tour around the globe to seek out potential investors. As a result , Thaksin Shinawatra from Thailand , became the major shareholder. Some time later of course , Shinawatra had criminal accusations to answer to in his native land , and as such , could not continue in his role at the club. His representatives approached His Highness Sheik Mansour , of the Abu Dhabi Emarati Royal Family , and the rest , as they say is history. Modern day football at the highest level , has long been dependent on “outside investment” , since Sky TV and other sponsors , started to plough serious amounts of money into the game. So rather than “winning the lottery” I would suggest that what City did , was recognise how the game was to be financed in the future , would be completely different to what had taken place in the past. Man Utd recently signed a record breaking sponsorship kit deal for £750 million , outside investment that is no different to what the ADU group have been doing at City. As I recall , Everton fans (the people’s club - apparently) were amongst the biggest critics of what had happened at City - yet Bill Kenwright sold the club to an Arab billionaire. I don’t hear any protests from Everton fans about that though. Similarly , if Sheikh Mansour would have offered to buy Newcastle off Ashley , would the Geordie fans have had a big protest against the deal ? - saying “nah thanks pet - we divvin want nah Arab billionaires at our club”. Bitterness and jealousy are indeed 2 words that spring to mind . In contrast , I was at the LC final a few years ago - we beat Sunderland- and their fans stood on the ramparts after the game and , despite losing , applauded City fans all the way back to their coaches.
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Everton, the self-proclaimed 'Peoples Club', were part of the 'Big 5' in the late 80's that wanted the vast majority of TV rights etc., for themselves and f**k everyone else...….how times change
 
Blue Feather said:
Everton, the self-proclaimed 'Peoples Club', were part of the 'Big 5' in the late 80's that wanted the vast majority of TV rights etc., for themselves and f**k everyone else...….how times change
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Another club propped up by a wealthy owner!
 
jrb said:
It’s not the club, it’s the fans.

Throughout our lows(and highs) we’ve never had their arragoance or attitude of ‘we’re the best football fans in the World’. ‘We’re a bigger club than you’. And the irony of chanting ‘where were you when you were shit’, ‘empty seats’, and being serious and deluded about it. You can bundle Newcastle fans in with Liverpool and Celtic fans about their perceived self-importance. And (apperently) everybody loves a Geordie?
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Haven't City always been a bigger club than Newcastle when it comes down to it? They were seen as a big club in the early days of the PL just because they are well supported locally(can't recall seeing any Newcastle shirts outside of Newcastle even back then) but considering their population and the fact they have no direct city rival that's nothing to shout about really is it?

They have 4 league wins that none of their support will remember since they all came before the 1930s arrived, never been a success in Europe either, so I don't really know where the idea that they are that big even came from. I suppose they do sit in 9th place in the all time top flight table which is something and shows they have been in the mix a long time, way behind us though:
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/eng-premier-league/

Nothing against them personally mind, just find their attitude towards City a bit rich, far too cocky for the size of club they really are and it's not like City fans go round calling anyone small either. So where does the chip they have on their shoulder come from?
 
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Metalartin said:
Haven't City always been a bigger club than Newcastle when it comes down to it? They were seen as a big club in the early days of the PL just because they are well supported locally(can't recall seeing any Newcastle shirts outside of Newcastle even back then) but considering their population and the fact they have no direct city rival that's nothing to shout about really is it?

They have 4 league wins that none of their support will remember since they all came before the 1930s arrived, never been a success in Europe either, so I don't really know where the idea that they are that big even came from.

Nothing against them personally mind, just find their attitude towards City a bit rich, far too cocky for the size of club they really are and it's not like City fans go round calling anyone small either. So where does the chip they have on their shoulder come from?
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I think you'll find they won the European Fairs Cup in 1969, and the Anglo Italian Cup in 1973.
 
crazyg said:
The Fairs Cup was the third most prestigious competition behind the European Cup and the Cup Winners Cup. It morphed in to the UEFA Cup and is now the Europa Cup. The Cup Winners Cup disappeared. I think we once played in the Anglo Italian Cup, so it must have been prestigious!
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Haha ok I'll play along, since there may be some Geordies who actually believe this judging by their increasingly bin dipper like mindset.

I wasn't aware of the Anglo Italian Cup(what's next the Audi Cup/Emirates Cup?) but I did notice the former, it's something I guess but I wouldn't say a cup like that makes any club "a success in Europe"(our European Cup Winners Cup's better than that too... just sayin' like) especially since it was initially only open to clubs for cities that hosted trade fairs(hence the name) and was later dubbed "the runners up cup".

Maybe we should start using our European Cup Winners Cup win more though, who knows? Maybe we're doing it wrong.
 
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Metalartin said:
Haha ok I'll play along.

I wasn't aware of the Anglo Italian Cup(what's next the Audi Cup/Emirates Cup?) but I did notice the former, it's something I guess but I wouldn't say a cup like that makes any club "a success in Europe"(our European Cup Winners Cup's better than that too... just sayin' like) especially since it was initially only open to clubs for cities that hosted trade fairs(hence the name) and was later dubbed "the runners up cup".

Maybe we should start using our European Cup Winners Cup win more though, who knows? Maybe we're doing it wrong.
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I think the A-E cup was by invitation, just like all pre-season tournaments. So, yes, it was slightly tongue in cheek. Since the demise of the Cup Winners Cup, which, surprisingly, was purely for the winners of the FA cup or it's national equivalent, all FA cup winners go in the Europa, as do the League Cup (or whatever they name it) winners. Before that, the League cup winners went into the UEFA cup. Historically the Fairs/UEFA cup was harder to win, I believe.
 
crazyg said:
Historically the Fairs/UEFA cup was harder to win, I believe.
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Subjective, depends who they were up against doesn't it? I'm not aware of which big clubs wouldn't have qualified the "open trade" cities part to be fair, but again "the runners up cup" should tell you something about the level of prestige it was held in, like you say it was behind the European Cup and the European Cup Winners Cup in that regard.

Regardless that competition isn't even officially recognised by UEFA, so they don't even count it against a club's European record themselves(so they clearly don't see the UEFA Cup as a successor). For me it's a bit of a none starter using it to claim European success(even if you could consider 1 cup many moons ago a success) considering everything going against it.

Perhaps I might see it differently had we won one of those, then again much like the European Cup Winners Cup it's nice to be able to say we won a European trophy of sorts but it would be embarrassing to make any more of it than that.
 
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I remember reading an article by Oliver Holt a few years ago about Newcastle and City. Wish I could find it now. It mentioned the differences in the support and loyalty of the fans. He tore the Geordies a new one.
Had a rosette once that said........DOYLE EATS MAGPIES.
 
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