Lyon (H) - Post Match Thread

Not sure why Gundogan is being singled out again. Fernandinho, Delph, Walker were all pretty poor for me. Sané changed the game but we could have just as easily taken Fernandinho off at that point. With Mendy still injured I'm not really sure why we didn't start with Sané tonight, especially when it meant playing with Bernardo in the right when he's played really well in the centre.

We had an off day, but I'm pretty confident we'll still top the group.

he isn't being singled out....but yet again he was poor.....others are poor sporadically...he is poor continuously...but tonight he was joined by the vast majority of the team
 
Poor first half probbaly because of selection.
Second half better but still sloppy at times.

A lot of credit to Lyon too though they kept themselves in groups of 3 - 4 and harrassed our midfield in packs causing a lot of errors .

Positive though another record broken, longest run of consecutive defeats for an English team with 4 in a row
 
Not good, started badly and it continued for the whole of the 1st half. Players looked like they had the attitude that all they had to do was turn up and things would work out.
That's 4 CL defeats in a row. Poor performances from Fernandinho, Delph, Walker was not good, D Silva couldn't work his magic. Even after we got it back to 2-1 with 20 plus minutes to go we could barely raise the pace.
What is going on with Jesus? Looking bang average these days.
Puts a big hole in our chances of topping the group, need to win at Hoffenheim next time out for starters.
 
Worried about fern.

Also, what kev does that others not so much is that he makes decisive, fast, direct passes/decisions and he has runners because they believe he’ll do it. Too many others seem content to knock the ball around simply for the sake of safety/possession, which lets we’ll organized defenses fall in and impose their physicality.

And with the general performance, would anyone consider that the booing really doesn’t set a good mood, vibe, energy? Just don’t think it inspires the players when they feel like no one wants to be there in the first places, sorry.
 
Got to wonder why the club isn't doing everything they can to sell out these games. They are not even selling tickets for the top tier for Shakhtar, not sure if this is same for the other 2 homes games. Should be kids for a pound time and lower prices overall to fill the stadium.

Just saw replay of Jesus penalty claim, penalty for me but VAR would not have changed it.

Tonight was a wake up call...if the players think they can stroll around and win either league or this cup they are going to be way short.
 
First english side to lose 4 consecutive CL games. We need to chill out trying to break records.
 
Can’t believe we didn’t try replace Fernandinho in the summer, was always going to be a big gamble.

said it all summer mate....water under the bridge now...got to make the best of it but it will cost us during the season. Think we a different team when Kev is back fully fit! bad day at the office and need to move on...
 
Bernardo has been our best player this season in the centre. So playing him out wide is arrogant

If we don't play Kun I'd like to see Mahrez as our central striker. GJ has lost all confidence
 
Not sure why Gundogan is being singled out again. Fernandinho, Delph, Walker were all pretty poor for me. Sané changed the game but we could have just as easily taken Fernandinho off at that point. With Mendy still injured I'm not really sure why we didn't start with Sané tonight, especially when it meant playing with Bernardo in the right when he's played really well in the centre.

Because every time Gundogan plays our midfield doesn't function well (since his last bad injury that is).
 
Lyon were very good and we played very badly. Reminded me of the pellegrini years when we regularly got overrun in midfield. Fern kept giving the ball away but was getting pretty shit ball from defence and Gundo. We were outplayed and looked sluggish. No excuses. Other than Kun and Sane that was our best team available and they bottled it. Hopefully just an off day and not something more endemic. Sane was good when he came on which bodes well but J H Christ do we not miss Kevin.
Sorry Gundo lovers, I have reverted to the dark side. He was fucking useless. Anyone want to make the Mendy vs Delph case tonight?

Fekir and Ndombele were better than anyone in our midfield tonight.
 

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