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smudgedj said:
So what, both Clinton's and Trump's campaigns were targeted to produce a win under the existing system. They would have altered their approaches to achieve a win under another system.
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The discussion touted democracy. The US election is not decided by democratic vote. If you don’t like facts, don’t debate. Oh wait, what am I thinking...facts and Republicans?! Haha!

Can you tell me the last Republican elected to President who was elected by a majority of the voters?
 
Damocles said:
I was referring to "the Orange Abortion"

Is this bullshit really the best standard of posting you lot can bring? Crap playground names, whinging about conspiracies and a total lack of grace about defeat?

It's like talking to a bunch of fucking five year olds sometimes.
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Pocahontas, anyone?!

Take your faux outrage somewhere else, snowflake!
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
If the Dems take the House and the Reps hold the Senate in the mid-terms, it will be political ping-pong for the next 2 years, and Trump will blame the Dems for all of it. Like you say, anger is a great motivator. Write Trump off at your peril.
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I think Blue turnout is going to be much higher, assuming Democrats run someone who can galvanize their support. I doubt Trump has won over many new converts since the election. I'm still not sure he's running. Retiring undefeated and leaving them wanting more will probably be appealing to to him. And probably he'll want his time back, especially at age 74.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
I think Blue turnout is going to be much higher, assuming Democrats run someone who can galvanize their support. I doubt Trump has won over many new converts since the election. I'm still not sure he's running. Retiring undefeated and leaving them wanting more will probably be appealing to to him. And probably he'll want his time back, especially at age 74.
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I hope so.
 
I've been to see Macbeth at the Lowry this afternoon. When Macduff's son is conversing with his mother, I could not but help think of the state of the Union.

SON
What is a traitor?
LADY MACDUFF
Why, one that swears and lies.
SON
And be all traitors that do so?
LADY MACDUFF
Every one that does so is a traitor and must be hanged.
SON
And must they all be hanged that swear and lie?
LADY MACDUFF
Every one.
SON
Who must hang them?
LADY MACDUFF
Why, the honest men.
SON
Then the liars and swearers are fools, for there are liars and swearers enough to beat the honest men and hang up them.
LADY MACDUFF
Now, God help thee, poor monkey! The Republican Party hast heard thee true.
 
SWP's back said:
The irony of you bemoaning a lack of grace and people behaving like children....
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Yes because anybody who disagrees with you and the prevailing current is acting like a child and lacks grace. Whereas talking about "the Orange Abortion" and such type is perfectly valid behaviour. You make your own bed.

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Damocles said:
Yes because anybody who disagrees with you and the prevailing current is acting like a child and lacks grace. Whereas talking about "the Orange Abortion" and such type is perfectly valid behaviour. You make your own bed.

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Try again. I’ve not suggest you’ve acted like a child. I’m saying you’re a hypocrite for defending a guy who acts without grace and in a childish manner every day.

The difference being, he’s the fucking President.

Surprised you weren’t able to understand my post to be honest. And I don’t know why you’re moaning about us calling out Trump, free speech and all that (and before you come back with “no free speech on here/CoC etc”, Trumo doesn’t post on here so isn’t protected by the CoC).

Ps. My bed is huge and comfy.
 
SWP's back said:
Try again. I’ve not suggest you’ve acted like a child. I’m saying you’re a hypocrite for defending a guy who acts without grace and in a childish manner every day.

The difference being, he’s the fucking President.
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Because he's not posting on a forum where I'm trying to have a proper conversation with people. If people want to go down the "Orange man bad" route then I can shitpost with the best of them; my point is that we can all actually have a rational conversation or we can post memes and presume "the other side" are all evil and corrupt and the worst thing ever. Either is fine by me.

This made me laugh

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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Democrats always have to work harder. Since the rise of the Super PAC and the likes of Roger Stone the GOP have been better funded.
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Anyone can use/ create a Super PAC. Stephen Colbert showed how easy it was, actually.

Dems have their way of getting their candidates selected against fair means.

Super -fookin'-Delegates.

It's horseh*t practice within their own party.
 
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