Nicolás Otamendi - 2018/19 performances

[Dax777]

Look at Otter's position when Laporte heads it, exactly where he should be to cover, problem was Laporte fucked up and headed it straight into Amond's path.

I'm questioning now whether you've actually seen the goal.

Lol.
When @Neville Kneville wants to find fault, facts are never a deterrent to that cause. :) But then again, I know you already know this.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Lol.
When @Neville Kneville wants to find fault, facts are never a deterrent to that cause. :) But then again, I know you already know this.

It's elementsry stuff of the kind which isn't even usually noticed, because the cb just runs on & uses his body to steer the attacker away from goal.

Laporte himself deals with 50 of those per season.

 

[Dax777]

It's elementsry stuff of the kind which isn't even usually noticed, because the cb just runs on & uses his body to steer the attacker away from goal.

Laporte himself deals with 50 of those per season.

You are wrong about this. But no amount of explaining will change your mind. So in inclined to just agree with you to keep the peace.

You've posted the video. Anyone who's interested can start at 46 seconds in, watch and come to their own conclusions.

 

[WestGorton]

Otamendi is a rock and he was magnificent last season. Its a rock and a hard place and game time improves every player in the short burst. He remains The General and should start in my opinion.

 

[Neville Kneville]

You are wrong about this. But no amount of explaining will change your mind. So in inclined to just agree with you to keep the peace.

You've posted the video. Anyone who's interested can start at 46 seconds in, watch and come to their own conclusions.

And they will see that Otamendi pauses as Laporte fucks up the header, rather than covering as would be the routine easy way to defend it.

The shit header by Laporte is absolutely not a goal causing error on its own.

It requires both cbs to create a goal, from avsolutely nothing.

I would add, if that really is the absolute best Otamendi can do, against a jouneyman cf running at medium pace, he shouldn't be in the team.

Thankfully, it was an error of judgement, not a complete lack of ability.

 

[Dax777]

And they will see that Otamendi pauses as Laporte fucks up the header, rather than covering as would be the routine easy way to defend it.

The shit header by Laporte is absolutely not a goal causing error on its own.

It requires both cbs to create a goal, from avsolutely nothing.

I would add, if that really is the absolute best Otamendi can do, against a jouneyman cf running at medium pace, he shouldn't be in the team.

Thankfully, it was an error of judgement, not a complete lack of ability.

Like I said, for anyone interested, start at 0:46 and judge for yourself. :)

 

[Neville Kneville]

Like I said, for anyone interested, start at 0:46 and judge for yourself. :)

Like I said, judge if he keeps running or not.

I find it weird how people go out of their way to ignore elementary mistakes at times & wonder why.

Not just on this thread, but in general.

That shite header creates an undefendable situation for Otamendi is what's being said.

Utd's defenders have covered 10 more difficult situations already in this game tonight.

Incredibly low standard people are setting.

 

[mccity]

He's clearly done in by the way the ball bounces in front of him, any other pitch and that's an easy clearance for him. Although by that stage of the game maybe he should've known better.

However, I do feel it's a bit nitpicky to blame him for the goal like that when it's blatantly Laporte's a by a majority.

 

[mosssideblue]

He's clearly done in by the way the ball bounces in front of him, any other pitch and that's an easy clearance for him. Although by that stage of the game maybe he should've known better.

However, I do feel it's a bit nitpicky to blame him for the goal like that when it's blatantly Laporte's a by a majority.

I would say Eddie is equally as culpable as Laporte

 

[Rolee]

I would say Eddie is equally as culpable as Laporte

Where should he have been? If the ball clears the centre backs or bounces between them he's ideally placed to collect.

 

[asahartford1]

I would say Eddie is equally as culpable as Laporte

Emerson is faultless

 

[mosssideblue]

Where should he have been? If the ball clears the centre backs or bounces between them he's ideally placed to collect.

For me, considering the position of the two CBs, he should have been on his line

 

[mosssideblue]

Emerson is faultless

Of course he is

 

[Neville Kneville]

He's clearly done in by the way the ball bounces in front of him, any other pitch and that's an easy clearance for him. Although by that stage of the game maybe he should've known better.

However, I do feel it's a bit nitpicky to blame him for the goal like that when it's blatantly Laporte's a by a majority.

The only reason the striker gets the ball, is because he carries on running (at medium pace) when Otamendi pauses. Otamendi still thinks he has it all in hand even after that, until the striker gets the ball.

Normally, a cb would just push in, at the side of the striker & steer him away from the ball, & nobody would even remember the mistake by Laporte.

It wouldn't normally even be a talking point in the game, it's an easy, routine clear up job, even with someone of Otamendi's speed. He was getting there easily, until he reacted incorrectly to Laporte's shit header.

The goal was made by two shit mistakes in easy siuations & Ederson was where he should be, to clear up in case the cf gets a challenge in on Otamendi, AFTER he moves in front or in case Otamendi falls over or gives the ball away, as he has recently on numerous occasions, sometimes rescued by Ederson.

Ederson is expecting a routine partnership clear up between the two cbs, rather than them both being hopeless at the same time.

 

[mosssideblue]

Can we all simply agree (secretly) that Neville is bang on the money and stop him looking for more reasons to blame Ota. - Unbelievable

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

Emerson is faultless

He's very unfortunate - for sure.

But why is he in prime position to be chipped with two defenders ahead of him? - both in excellent position? He's not faultless.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

A couple of videos of the Newport goal.




I can't quibble at all with exact percentages of blame... but for me blame is

Laport >>> Ederson > Otters

Which is to say this goal is on Laport. Ederson was in poor position. Otters slightly to blame but I think he did the best he could under the circumstances.

 

[mosssideblue]

A couple of videos of the Newport goal.




I can't quibble at all with exact percentages of blame... but for me blame is

Laport >>> Ederson > Otters

Which is to say this goal is on Laport. Ederson was in poor position. Otters slightly to blame but I think he did the best he could under the circumstances.

I would say Eddie is most at fault as, as you correctly said two posts back, why was he so far off his line with the CBs where they were

 

[asahartford1]

He's very unfortunate - for sure.

But why is he in prime position to be chipped with two defenders ahead of him? - both in excellent position? He's not faultless.

Sorry, just messin with Keowns commentary, Emerson........-:)

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

I would say Eddie is most at fault as, as you correctly said two posts back, why was he so far off his line with the CBs where they were

I could understand that for sure.

But Laporte's failure to head it forward - or to drop back and just defend - is more damning for me. But I may be biased - I love Edderson - best keeper for us in the World - but I'm even more pro-Laporte - PoTY in the P/L for me - in spite of this error.