Football Leaks/Der Spiegel articles

[The blue phantom]

Well they have Ladyman from the Mail on Sunday supplement today and said they will be discussing us in part four.

All of a one minute discussion.

 

[abu13]

I cant believe how some people on here view the situation, do we honestly think that the club just release a statement saying we are no going to comment and then leave it there?
You can bet that behind the scenes we have lawyers all over this and discussions are taking place at very high levels, football is a big money industry and where there is money there is corruption and underhand dealings. You can bet that we have information that Uefa don't want to come out, it has already been shown how corrupt they are and they have been for years.
Look, if there was anything majorly wrong with anything we have done it would have been out there already and being dealt with, the fact that we are several months after the initial leaks came out and nothing has yet happened should tell us all we need to know.
If we have done wrong in transfer dealings and clearly broken the rules then we deserve to be punished, it just put pressure on us to get the gaps in the squad fixed this summer.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Bayern must be fuming at the deal we have done with the German company Puma. That’s why it’s started again I think.

 

[SilverFox2]

I don't think our owner will sacrifice his investment rewards for legal action unless there is no chance that his investment can be fully exploited.
His day job is investment and he will not be side tracked by things that interfere with that objective.

 

[Brendan110_0]

I cant believe how some people on here view the situation, do we honestly think that the club just release a statement saying we are no going to comment and then leave it there?
You can bet that behind the scenes we have lawyers all over this and discussions are taking place at very high levels, football is a big money industry and where there is money there is corruption and underhand dealings. You can bet that we have information that Uefa don't want to come out, it has already been shown how corrupt they are and they have been for years.
Look, if there was anything majorly wrong with anything we have done it would have been out there already and being dealt with, the fact that we are several months after the initial leaks came out and nothing has yet happened should tell us all we need to know.
If we have done wrong in transfer dealings and clearly broken the rules then we deserve to be punished, it just put pressure on us to get the gaps in the squad fixed this summer.

The sticking point for UEFA is we were already punished in 2014, but that doesn't stop the top brass from United, Milan, Bayern, Liverpool running the agenda and threatening the screw up "their" competition and divine right to win it and make the most money from it.

 

[paulchapo]

All of a one minute discussion.

Yes after the big build up a whole lot of nothing. Why should we say something? At the moment it is one agenda led German newspaper making accusations. If any official body charges us then and only then will we respond.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

In fairness, it was only last week that Der Spiegle claimed that De Bruyne was just €3m less than VVD.

In euros, it may be very close due to the change in exchange rate. Much closer than the price played in sterling.

 

[SilverFox2]

Sunday Supplement matters, the Mail rep said City are hoping it goes away with their refusal to reply whereas he praised Der Spiegel for their public interest reporting.

 

[schfc6]

In euros, it may be very close due to the change in exchange rate. Much closer than the price played in sterling.

Would make sense. But VVD was £75m, seems like they’re quoting one in pound and one in euro. There’s a £20m difference.

 

[blueparrot]

Would make sense. But VVD was £75m, seems like they’re quoting one in pound and one in euro. There’s a £20m difference.

Yes but the KDB price was always in Euros think at the time €75 mill eureo would have cost us about £58 mill and the VVD would be converted to euros at the current exchange rate so there probably is only €3mill euro difference.

 

[schfc6]

Yes but the KDB price was always in Euros think at the time €75 mill eureo would have cost us about £58 mill and the VVD would be converted to euros at the current exchange rate so there probably is only €3mill euro difference.

The euro at the time would have made £75m something like €87m.

 

[blueparrot]

The euro at the time would have made £75m something like €87m.

We paid about 75 mill euros, you’re looking the wrong way round. To a German KDB cost €75 mill. Van Dykes £75 mill converts to about €78 mill so about €3 mill difference in price fro a German perspective. From a UK perspective at the time KDB was about £58 mill so nearly £20 difference. But the German paper wasn’t wrong.

 

[schfc6]

We paid about 75 mill euros, you’re looking the wrong way round. To a German KDB cost €75 mill. Van Dykes £75 mill converts to about €78 mill so about €3 mill difference in price fro a German perspective. From a UK perspective at the time KDB was about £58 mill so nearly £20 difference. But the German paper wasn’t wrong.

£75m doesn’t convert to to €78m. There not doing it at the airport currency exchange. £75m is €87m. At the very lowest it was €83m.

 

[SWP's back]

We paid about 75 mill euros, you’re looking the wrong way round. To a German KDB cost €75 mill. Van Dykes £75 mill converts to about €78 mill so about €3 mill difference in price fro a German perspective. From a UK perspective at the time KDB was about £58 mill so nearly £20 difference. But the German paper wasn’t wrong.

£75m is 87 million euros. Not 78m.

 

[blueparrot]

£75m doesn’t convert to to €78m. There not doing it at the airport currency exchange. £75m is €87m. At the very lowest it was €83m.

Well I dont know the exact fees paid and the exchange rates at the times, and I’m not really too bothered as the €3 mill difference isn’t really a big deal compared to the other stories. But depending on all the variables it may or may not be that far off.

 

[SWP's back]

£75m doesn’t convert to to €78m. There not doing it at the airport currency exchange. £75m is €87m. At the very lowest it was €83m.

You’re right first time with 87m. That’s the spot rate and you get spot rate on transfers that high.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Would make sense. But VVD was £75m, seems like they’re quoting one in pound and one in euro. There’s a £20m difference.

Yes, that might happen too (it's happened in several places).

Having checked a hunch, I think what they've done is used the figures on transfermarkt (I've commented on this before) where the figures for the transfer are 75 and 78 M euros - that will be dynamic for exchange rate, with the euro as the constant one.

Edit: Sorry, 76 and 78.8, but still 3M difference near enough.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

In lighter approaches:

 

[razman]

Sunday Supplement matters, the Mail rep said City are hoping it goes away with their refusal to reply whereas he praised Der Spiegel for their public interest reporting.

Video Discussion of the sunday supplement..in the tweeted link.

Same as what you have written.

It's not ladyman though , it's Sam Wallace of the telegraph

 

[Cityfan1977]

This is attack on our club, I know we are no angels but if people think that no dirt is in Utd or Liverpool books thats very naive.
Biggest thing for my is the deal with Puma, there is no change for a intetnational super brand to sign 10 year huge deal with a football club with no connections with if they think that we are cheats and so on.