MillionMilesAway
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She called the 2017 election - that caused the current mess.
The 2016 election, I agree, was not hers, and in itself was ok. The referendum caused the mess before the current mess.
I don't think she's power hungry.
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Theresa May
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She called the 2017 election - that caused the current mess.
The 2016 election, I agree, was not hers, and in itself was ok. The referendum caused the mess before the current mess.
I don't think she's power hungry.
Prestwich_Blue
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Rafa Benitez?Who's that **** next to Arlene Foster?
Prestwich_Blue
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She couldn’t win though. The only way she survived was by effectively resigning but that was deferred until April next year.Some fucking strange headlines this morning seeing as "she can't possibly win".
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There is a resemblance, but Rafa is competent.Rafa Benitez?
As much as I dislike May I will admit that I have a new found respect for he in how she is conducting herself today.
Obviously as PM you have to act in a certain way but if I was in her shoes today I would be using this platform to be telling them all to "go fuck themselves and stick your job up your arse".
How can you respect someone for being selfish and only staying in her role for selfless reasons only? She had a no confidence vote which 117 declared no confidence in her, out of the 200 that voted for her 140 were on the payroll. As JRM said she can no longer go about her parliamentary business without those 117 votes and have to rely upon the opposition for her support.
Putting aside her Brexit deal which is deader than a very dead dodo, what can she now do that is going to be anyway productive for this country. She can’t govern, pass legislate, laws nothing big fat zero. Some in the media were calling her a lame duck I would call her a dead duck. She needs extend article 50 resign and call a general election.
She couldn’t win though. The only way she survived was by effectively resigning but that was deferred until April next year.
All she has done is give herself an accurate idea of how much she would have lost by on Tuesday, oh and the fact that she can no longer govern which I am guessing she knew anyway.
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How can you respect someone for being selfish and only staying in her role for selfless reasons only? She had a no confidence vote which 117 declared no confidence in her, out of the 200 that voted for her 140 were on the payroll. As JRM said she can no longer go about her parliamentary business without those 117 votes and have to rely upon the opposition for her support.
Putting aside her Brexit deal which is deader than a very dead dodo, what can she now do that is going to be anyway productive for this country. She can’t govern, pass legislate, laws nothing big fat zero. Some in the media were calling her a lame duck I would call her a dead duck. She needs extend article 50 resign and call a general election.
You're right but come on Mike, you manage to respect Corbyn and he lost by a bigger margin.
Fair play in ignoring that vote though and getting his union mates to vote him back in behind the backs of the PLP.
She didn't create the mess. I think if she was truly power hungry she would have refused to stand down before the next general election. The mess came from the Tories fearing a loss in the last election and offering a referendum to avoid losing seats to UKIP. Ultimately that promise led to this carnage. May is trying to get a deal that works but the EU are saying piss off and we didn't think this Brexit thing through before we voted on it. No one had a clue. Surely the NI border was obviously an issue? Surely the divorce bill was always going to be huge and outweigh benefits in the short term.... uncertainty isn't good for this country and May is saying whilst this is shite it gets it done and we can move on. It is Cameron's mess.
Your right it is Cameron's mess and all she has done is continued to throw the shit on it to get rid of the smell.
You're right but come on Mike, you manage to respect Corbyn and he lost by a bigger margin.
Fair play in ignoring that vote though and getting his union mates to vote him back in behind the backs of the PLP.
Massive difference you cannot compare a sitting PM to the opposition leader I am sorry, absolute different ball park mate. This is the PM she has to govern legislate pass laws make budgets etc. The opposition leader well he/she has to try and hold she/him to account. The country could literally fall apart with a PM in the position that she is in, it won't but she is severely hamstrung.
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Massive difference you cannot compare a sitting PM to the opposition leader I am sorry, absolute different ball park mate. This is the PM she has to govern legislate pass laws make budgets etc. The opposition leader well he/she has to try and hold she/him to account. The country could literally fall apart with a PM in the position that she is in, it won't but she is severely hamstrung.
I keep reading this.
maybe by the same token Corbyn should stop telling the country he is ready and able to govern then?
You should read the excuses you make for Corbyn as they are laughable at times.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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May will win the vote.
Its a suicide note for the party otherwise.
its suicide for the conservatives anyway .... shown them selves to be incapable of delivering anything for the country .... its why they focus on hurting the disabled the elderly and the unemployed
abu13
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How can you respect someone for being selfish and only staying in her role for selfless reasons only? She had a no confidence vote which 117 declared no confidence in her, out of the 200 that voted for her 140 were on the payroll. As JRM said she can no longer go about her parliamentary business without those 117 votes and have to rely upon the opposition for her support.
Putting aside her Brexit deal which is deader than a very dead dodo, what can she now do that is going to be anyway productive for this country. She can’t govern, pass legislate, laws nothing big fat zero. Some in the media were calling her a lame duck I would call her a dead duck. She needs extend article 50 resign and call a general election.
Respect is proberbly the wrong word for me to use.
I keep reading this.
maybe by the same token Corbyn should stop telling the country he is ready and able to govern then?
You should read the excuses you make for Corbyn as they are laughable at times.
I think that you are forgetting that there has been an election since and he had time to get people on side and of course some or those voting against are no longer MP's.
BTW where did I mention Corbyn is a PM in waiting in this post?
Respect is proberbly the wrong word for me to use.
I think your right mate
You're right but come on Mike, you manage to respect Corbyn and he lost by a bigger margin.
Fair play in ignoring that vote though and getting his union mates to vote him back in behind the backs of the PLP.
Just to correct myself here in that there are 160 MP's on the payroll not 140, so she convinced 40 backbenchers to vote for compared to 117 who voted against her.
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So May says that this horrendous rise in knife crime is nothing to do with a drop in Police numbers, yet most people including senior police officers think there is a direct link. I don't think much of this woman at the best of times but i am affraid she has gone even further down in my estimation trying to defend her policies when young people are dying every week. Sometimes you have to just do the right thing and admit you made a mistake rather than shamessly arrogantly trying to save face.
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Absolutely right. She made the mistake of slashing police numbers as Home Secretary 9 years ago and it's shameful that she's still defending the decision now in spite of all the evidence. It's the same attitude that she's displaying with the Brexit fiasco, except it's even worse in the knife crime debate as people are dying.So May says that this horrendous rise in knife crime is nothing to do with a drop in Police numbers, yet most people including senior police officers think there is a direct link. I don't think much of this woman at the best of times but i am affraid she has gone even further down in my estimation trying to defend her policies when young people are dying every week. Sometimes you have to just do the right thing and admit you made a mistake rather than shamessly arrogantly trying to save face.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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If only these knife-men were killing less than a tenth of these numbers but shouting “praise Allah” we’d have a task force, Cobra meetings, special extra police funding and public outrage. A murdering bastard is a murdering bastard, whatever their religion, and a victim is a victim, and the government needs to get on to it and do whatever it needs to sort it out.Absolutely right. She made the mistake of slashing police numbers as Home Secretary 9 years ago and it's shameful that she's still defending the decision now in spite of all the evidence. It's the same attitude that she's displaying with the Brexit fiasco, except it's even worse in the knife crime debate as people are dying.
If only these knife-men were killing less than a tenth of these numbers but shouting “praise Allah” we’d have a task force, Cobra meetings, special extra police funding and public outrage. A murdering bastard is a murdering bastard, whatever their religion, and a victim is a victim, and the government needs to get on to it and do whatever it needs to sort it out.
But if he's a brown person and more importantly a muslim then we would have to come down harder on him!! It's just a sham that Shamina Begum story has died down a bit now we need another distraction from all this. (Best get odd job to ring Uncle Rupert, tell him to send out one of his boys to Syria and see if he can dig up a couple more Jihadi brides, Begum and her mates who went with her at 15 would be just the ticket).