Liverpool thread 2018/19

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The issue for me with VAR and offsides, is where/when they freeze the playback to get the ruling; that’s the part that’s still open to human “error” (or influence) it seems to me. Is it the point the player (making the pass)’s foot first makes contact with the ball or the point when the ball leaves the foot? - they aren’t the same thing, and whoever chooses that freeze-frame point does have massive influence. At the moment, the person who does that for sky etc basically makes up minds for everyone watching, but it doesn’t affect the outcome; next year it will.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It is a joke but better than the current situation. With VAR Fabinho is booked for diving and Liverpool don't score at Newcastle. The linesman was three yards away. That was not a straight decision. The look on the Newcastle player's face tells you everything. I am sure it will initially be chaos next year but will settle down moving forward.
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VAR is not going to be used for free kicks so it would still happen. I'm not that bothered because free kicks or corners incorrectly given or not given are part of every game. It is up to the defending team to defend them properly. VAR will reduce the number of incorrectly given or disallowed goals without any doubt. I think most of the outcomes to date have been correct.
 
I have zero sympathy for the diving cünt Salah after he got brushed by the goal keeper and went down like he had been hit by a train. It’s embarrassing. These cünts need to take a long hard look at their actions. It’s disgusting and cheating and pathetic.
 
pardoeofftomexico said:
VAR is not going to be used for free kicks so it would still happen. I'm not that bothered because free kicks or corners incorrectly given or not given are part of every game. It is up to the defending team to defend them properly. VAR will reduce the number of incorrectly given or disallowed goals without any doubt. I think most of the outcomes to date have been correct.
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So next season a player could face retrospective action for diving but a goal that was created by cheating and possibly has huge title/relegation implications for a club would still stand. I don't understand how you could be happy with that.
 
chesterbells said:
The issue for me with VAR and offsides, is where/when they freeze the playback to get the ruling; that’s the part that’s still open to human “error” (or influence) it seems to me. Is it the point the player (making the pass)’s foot first makes contact with the ball or the point when the ball leaves the foot? - they aren’t the same thing, and whoever chooses that freeze-frame point does have massive influence. At the moment, the person who does that for sky etc basically makes up minds for everyone watching, but it doesn’t affect the outcome; next year it will.
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Been saying this for years. This will be the variable that no one will talk about. I remember Silva scoring a dubious goal v Arsenal. One frame he is on side, the next a yard off, the first the player is playing the ball, the second it is leaving his foot. So this is the magic ingredient that will mean it is not always a factual judgement. City fans favouring VAR is like Turkeys voting for Christmas...
 
Tracking back said:
That is exactly why the human bias should be removed from the decision.

I came up with a couple of ideas for VAR and the off side rulings.

VAR first. The officials in the HUB/van or wherever they sit should receive virtual reality images, computer graphics where the identity of team is not available to them. That way they're only able to make a decision on the event in question without them knowing which team they are making a decision on.

Off side rulings. Get rid of the assistant referees (they can't keep up with the pace of play anyway).
The simple replacement would be a high speed camera mounted on a track that runs parallel to both touch lines. Just like goal line technology there would be no errors.
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You'd know if it was City, purely from the amount of possession one of them had.
 
Hart of the Matter said:
Been saying this for years. This will be the variable that no one will talk about. I remember Silva scoring a dubious goal v Arsenal. One frame he is on side, the next a yard off, the first the player is playing the ball, the second it is leaving his foot. So this is the magic ingredient that will mean it is not always a factual judgement. City fans favouring VAR is like Turkeys voting for Christmas...
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The club are in favour of VAR.
So they are the so called Turkey's in this case.
 
ali benarbia's studs said:
i have a feeling that game will turn ugly and their season will have exploded, all pending on the result later.
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Talking of ugly, wasn’t there a thread on rawk about their fans planning to come down tonight and welcome the city players coach to the ground? What about for Barca’s coach tomorrow too? I wonder why not..
 
Rochdale Blue said:
So next season a player could face retrospective action for diving but a goal that was created by cheating and possibly has huge title/relegation implications for a club would still stand. I don't understand how you could be happy with that.
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I imagine they are talking about retrospective action when someone dives to try to gain a penalty but I don't know and we shall see. I like technology and it has worked well for goal line decisions. I think it will work well or at least far better than the present situation for offside's leading to goals and handballs in the area. Who knows where it will finish up but I think we are a long way from using it to judge a foul well away from the penalty area.
 
chesterbells said:
Talking of ugly, wasn’t there a thread on rawk about their fans planning to come down tonight and welcome the city players coach to the ground? What about for Barca’s coach tomorrow too? I wonder why not..
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When you are making your giro stretch to be able to afford the latest New Balance shell suit and a 24 pack of strongbow dark fruits to launch at the Barca coach tomorrow somethings have to give, I don’t think they will be able to stretch to the train ticket from Lime Street to Manchester Victoria. Pricing proper boss fans out of the game lah.
 
Both Salah and Firmino are out for the game against Barca tomorrow so cant see them qualifying for the final now, and i reckon wolves will make it real difficult for them next weekend.

Do the business tonight and the scousers really could come out of this season with nothing.

Here's hoping anyway!
 
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