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Game of Thrones (season 8)
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TCIB
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I watched a fair few to be honest but here are some that pop up as watched when i went to the same youtube search...You got a link to the one you Watched?
I tend to listen rather than watch so i could not give you timestamps etc to individual "ahh" moments.
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Daenerys has always had that mad streak; she's just previously killed people that the viewer thought we acceptable deaths. The last season brought the realization that she killed people who it was more convenient for her to kill, rather than people she thought had done wrong.
Compare her reaction to Viserys' death to Tyrion's of Jamie and Cersei.
All the major characters have a homicidal streak bar Sansa. It's the lack of story showing Danny's descent into madness that grate's with me.
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There will be some who get giddy with pre-conceived ideas who lose their shit, they need to calm down a bit. There are legitimate structural concerns though which translate bad to the screen.Quite clearly, fan fiction is how it should have ended. 50,000 different fan fictions.
What idiots the producers are.
If you take Ser Jorah surviving the charge it killed any real sense of imminent danger. The NK had his super serious threat neutered there and then. The plot armour was to thick, far to thick. When i then saw Brianne swamped by the dead i was not moved one bit. You knew someone was going to help her and she would somehow be unscathed. Now if a headless or wide eyed Jorah on the edge of death came back and fell there and then you have a real battle set up. Otherwise he should not have been in the charge and we could have avoided the whole unsavoury business of bad fan service in that scene.
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This fella is always worth listening to.
All the major characters have a homicidal streak bar Sansa. It's the lack of story showing Danny's descent into madness that grate's with me.
I disagree. Even before King's Landing, Dany's body count was some way higher than anyone else's. Every death just felt more justified, even if they weren't necessary.
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I disagree. Even before King's Landing, Dany's body count was some way higher than anyone else's. Every death just felt more justified, even if they weren't necessary.
The only death's that I can think were unjustified would be the Tarley's, and even then they had the opportunity to bend the knee.
There will be some who get giddy with pre-conceived ideas who lose their shit, they need to calm down a bit. There are legitimate structural concerns though which translate bad to the screen.
If you take Ser Jorah surviving the charge it killed any real sense of imminent danger. The NK had his super serious threat neutered there and then. The plot armour was to thick, far to thick. When i then saw Brianne swamped by the dead i was not moved one bit. You knew someone was going to help her and she would somehow be unscathed. Now if a headless or wide eyed Jorah on the edge of death came back and fell there and then you have a real battle set up. Otherwise he should not have been in the charge and we could have avoided the whole unsavoury business of bad fan service in that scene.
Pretty sure I've been critical of pacing and plotting this series. Just amused at the x character should have ended y stuff.
TCIB
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Ahh yeah those people should probably calm their wrath.Pretty sure I've been critical of pacing and plotting this series. Just amused at the x character should have ended y stuff.
Thought the ending was really appropriately judged. Ranked every episode from worst to best now it’s all over:
https://link.medium.com/QgbwMhyBSW
https://link.medium.com/QgbwMhyBSW
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Well what am I supposed to look forward to now, Vinny's gone, footballs gone and now GOTs. Gutted!!!
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Well what am I supposed to look forward to now, Vinny's gone, footballs gone and now GOTs. Gutted!!!
The transfer forum awaits you.
The only death's that I can think were unjustified would be the Tarley's, and even then they had the opportunity to bend the knee.
Depends on your perspective though. She didn't need to kill the masters in Meereen for example, but did because she's always been bloodthirsty.
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Depends on your perspective though. She didn't need to kill the masters in Meereen for example, but did because she's always been bloodthirsty.
Yes it's about perspective, and from mine she was justified. Don't you think her descent into madness happened to quick? Personally I'd have liked to see it more fleshed out.
Yes it's about perspective, and from mine she was justified. Don't you think her descent into madness happened to quick? Personally I'd have liked to see it more fleshed out.
No, I think she's always been a bloodthirsty killer, happy to take an indefinite number of lives if it furthered her cause. Only difference this season is those she has murdered have been deemed more innocent than those in previous seasons. She could have shown more mercy on several occasions though.
The descent to madness only seems quick if you seem this season's deaths more meaningful than those in previous.
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Had a good chat with @Paul Lake's Left Knee about this. They fucked off to do Star Wars basically. Mr Knee off the top of his noggin gave a good 10 series time line, with little excess i should add.Season 8 = white walkers, 9 = lanisters/kings landing, 10 = wind it up properly (probably only 5 eps needed though).Yes it's about perspective, and from mine she was justified. Don't you think her descent into madness happened to quick? Personally I'd have liked to see it more fleshed out.
Apparently HBO would have been very happy to go this route but the writers now held all the power, well, enough to short change the end as they have.
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No, I think she's always been a bloodthirsty killer, happy to take an indefinite number of lives if it furthered her cause. Only difference this season is those she has murdered have been deemed more innocent than those in previous seasons. She could have shown more mercy on several occasions though.
The descent to madness only seems quick if you seem this season's deaths more meaningful than those in previous.
Well virtually wiping out a whole city by genocide is certainly more meaningful than anything from the past. Nothing she has done previously comes close. There's no doubt it has been rushed Dannys descent into madness could have been an incredible story but they chose to have here go from hero to homicidal maniac in very few episodes. Your also forgetting all the good she has done while only concentrating on her negatives.
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The only death's that I can think were unjustified would be the Tarley's, and even then they had the opportunity to bend the knee.
I thought her instinct was always to butcher and every mercy she showed was only after advisor intervention.
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Dany witnessing her vision of the throne room made real sort of rubs salt into the wound. If she'd seen another vision coming true beforehand, it would have provided an excellent explanation for her going over the edge.
That's what the script was desperately trying to *tell* us, through the mouths of Varys etc - she'd become dangerous because she believed too much in her destiny. It's dreadfully disappointing that they didn't find anyway to SHOW it. Worse than that, what they chose to SHOW us about her inner state - trembling lips - took us in a completely different direction, and led us to believe it was about Cersei making her angry. And then there's the implications of the story, which was clearly pointing to her being affected by the death of her dragon and feeling isolated. Finally, D&D throw yet another spanner into the works with their comments about her forgetting about the Iron Fleet? What, so maybe she's really angry with herself about that?
It's a mess. All going off in different directions. Smacks of them not wanting to make any commitment or decision. They needed to pick a couple of believable and compelling explanations of/for her descent into madness, and then portray them using ALL the elements - the plot, the story, the dialogue, the action, and the performances - in unison.
That's what the script was desperately trying to *tell* us, through the mouths of Varys etc - she'd become dangerous because she believed too much in her destiny. It's dreadfully disappointing that they didn't find anyway to SHOW it. Worse than that, what they chose to SHOW us about her inner state - trembling lips - took us in a completely different direction, and led us to believe it was about Cersei making her angry. And then there's the implications of the story, which was clearly pointing to her being affected by the death of her dragon and feeling isolated. Finally, D&D throw yet another spanner into the works with their comments about her forgetting about the Iron Fleet? What, so maybe she's really angry with herself about that?
It's a mess. All going off in different directions. Smacks of them not wanting to make any commitment or decision. They needed to pick a couple of believable and compelling explanations of/for her descent into madness, and then portray them using ALL the elements - the plot, the story, the dialogue, the action, and the performances - in unison.