The issue is that you wouldn't get Bernardo for anywhere close to 43m today and if we had this policy then we would've ended up with Gelson Martins or something. If everyone else is paying big fees and we just decide on our own to only pay fees that made sense three years ago the quality of your squad eventually declines.
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The issue is that you wouldn't get Bernardo for anywhere close to 43m today and if we had this policy then we would've ended up with Gelson Martins or something. If everyone else is paying big fees and we just decide on our own to only pay fees that made sense three years ago the quality of your squad eventually declines.
Agree fee for a player like B Silva now would be pushing 100m thats what the Neymar fee has done.
kaz7
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You are still not getting it,Kahldoon is very clear about our transfer policy and it's working,how much more do you want than double followed up by the treble!The issue is that you wouldn't get Bernardo for anywhere close to 43m today and if we had this policy then we would've ended up with Gelson Martins or something. If everyone else is paying big fees and we just decide on our own to only pay fees that made sense three years ago the quality of your squad eventually declines.
Gabriel
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You are still not getting it,Kahldoon is very clear about our transfer policy and it's working,how much more do you want than double followed up by the treble!
Champions League, please? If only to shut Chelsea fans up.
I agree, however, slow and steady .
Agreed! The market has changed! And since I'd like to continue signing players like Barnardo I think we should consider paying a little closer to the going rate for players. Would we even be in for a player like KDB today?Agree fee for a player like B Silva now would be pushing 100m thats what the Neymar fee has done.
I'm not sure you even read my posts, but again, I understand the policy, I just have a light criticism of it.You are still not getting it,Kahldoon is very clear about our transfer policy and it's working,how much more do you want than double followed up by the treble!
Grealish’s Shinpads
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We’ve not been linked and it’s never going to happen but would anyone else absolutely love it if we signed Sergio Ramos?
It would be worth it just to boil the scousers’ piss alone
It would be worth it just to boil the scousers’ piss alone
Agreed! The market has changed! And since I'd like to continue signing players like Barnardo I think we should consider paying a little closer to the going rate for players. Would we even be in for a player like KDB today?
Think if you look at our squad now we dont have to pay big for a Felix type player because of the likes of Sane kdb B Silva Sterling if Sane goes then I feel the club would use that money to pay the extra for a Felix, if Sane stays we wont be paying massive fees for a player.
Agreed! The market has changed! And since I'd like to continue signing players like Barnardo I think we should consider paying a little closer to the going rate for players. Would we even be in for a player like KDB today?
I'm not sure you even read my posts, but again, I understand the policy, I just have a light criticism of it.
The market hasn’t changed at all. PSG, Barcelona, Liverpool and United have all been panic buying this last couple of years.
If you look at all the big ‘big’ money signings - Neymar, Mbappe, Coutinho, Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Ronaldo, Kepa, Van Dijk, Mahrez and Alison they’ve all struggled with the exception of Liverpool’s two. The squad harmony is destroyed at all those clubs (us and Liverpool excluded), so signing big ‘big’ money players isn’t working in the majority of cases.
Our transfer policy has been working in general, I think Mahrez will come good but it’s taking a while and I’m still not convinced but he’s done just enough to earn the benefit of any doubt. The big big money signings don’t work in general because they no longer have anything to prove, they’re already on huge wages and long contracts and have no incentive but personal pride which you could say has already been achieved because they’ll look at the wages they’re on and think they’ve done everything they can. It also puts players backs up at those clubs (e.g. Cavani) who work their arses off and then see these players come in, don’t work as hard as the other players (e.g Pogba) and it ruins the team spirit. Then those same players (e.g. De Gea) want to be paid the same money and threaten to leave.
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simon23
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glad for him...and good for us...wages off the books (for a player who is never going to play) and we should get some sort of fee for him even if it is less than we paid
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glad for him...and good for us...wages off the books (for a player who is never going to play) and we should get some sort of fee for him even if it is less than we paid
About 40m less.
About 40m less.
2m seems a decent fee
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For a team that’s solely responsible for distorting the market, resulting in unprecedented inflation of prices, we aren’t half cheapskates!There will be a lot of disappointed people if they think we have any intention of paying even three quarters of what Benfica are demanding for Felix.
£70m tops is our view and, even then, we see better value elsewhere if Leroy forces a move.
I did say Maguire was an option a few weeks back but we would rather pay the De Ligt price than meet Leicester's valuation.
Bayern are also touting Kingsley Coman, as they know Pep has plenty of time for him, but we are only thinking of Leroy getting his head straight and staying.
The Felix chase was over as soon as Khaldoon mentioned that we don’t have the record fee for any position. I get the sense he wants to keep it that way.
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Or he highlighted it knowing we were going to be breaking into the top 10 this summer?For a team that’s solely responsible for distorting the market, resulting in unprecedented inflation of prices, we aren’t half cheapskates!
The Felix chase was over as soon as Khaldoon mentioned that we don’t have the record fee for any position. I get the sense he wants to keep it that way.
To be a fly on the wall in the boardroom for Txiki and Pep to discuss targets. I'm very interested to know if there's another CB we're looking at. We've really only been linked with de Ligt and Maguire, and if those two move this summer they'll cost more than any CB out there.
Wonder if we would target someone like Jonathan Tah for €40m or so.
Wonder if we would target someone like Jonathan Tah for €40m or so.
Lemon7277
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Knowing how nuts pep is he's probably just going throw ferna in at 3rd choice CB and told the powers that be just get a defensive midfielder in
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I just don’t see him making a point of not holding the English record transfer fee for goalkeeper, defender, midfielder or forward only to then break it immediately. The interview with him told me it matters greatly to him that he acts sensibly in the market. And as money has become a bigger and bigger stick to beat us with, he seems determined to prove them wrong. If we needed to replace Sané this summer (hopefully not), I just can’t see us buying a forward for more than the fee the rags paid for Lukaku, and Felix would undoubtedly cost more than that.Or he highlighted it knowing we were going to be breaking into the top 10 this summer?
Baring in mind how many times pep mentioned how we struggle defending set pieces and corners due to our lack of height I would be shocked if he went with that strategy next season. He even suggested the reason why Kompany or otamendi where preferred in certain games was because of their strength in aerial duels. No chance we don’t sign a cb if otamendi leavesKnowing how nuts pep is he's probably just going throw ferna in at 3rd choice CB and told the powers that be just get a defensive midfielder in
mosssideblue
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Like JFE :)Kaldoon said that our policy would be to buy young promising players and implied we would not be paying record fees.
That means we may be planning to buy good but below the radar players not the overhyped names being mentioned
The market hasn’t changed at all.
That’s exactly how it’s changed. All that money from the panic buys filters down into the market, pushes the prices of marginal players up because valuations are all based on comparables, and absent some sort of wider disruption that’s just what it is now. Madrid is about to spend 100m+ on Hazard with a year left on his contract, Bayern just smashed their transfer record on Lucas Hernandez, and even Juve spent 100m on what’s his name last summer. Just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean we can pretend the market hasn’t changed.PSG, Barcelona, Liverpool and United have all been panic buying this last couple of years.
And yes, our transfer policy definitely has been working, but our policy has always been identifying players that fit the system, have the right personality, then spending at the high end of the market in both fees and wages to go get them. I’m not advocating that we go out and set a new world record just because, but it isn’t a coincidence that Mendy and Walker were the most expensive fullbacks when they were transferred, or that people criticized how much we spent on KDB or Sterling. We identified who we wanted, then paid up to get them.
The was I see it, Txiki and Khaldoon have clearly come to the conclusion that this blip in the market is just that, and that prices will come back down to earth soon. If they’re right they can sit back and say I told you so, but if they’re wrong, and prices stay inflated, we’re going to end up in a situation where we constantly miss out on top targets, and eventually the quality of the side deteriorates. Try signing a top striker to replace Aguero next year for 50m and see where that gets us. It’s a gamble that I don’t really see the point of, but I hope they’re right and I’m not.