Grassland Blue
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He was good enough for the Tarquins to have a good look at him (when they had a decent side)
Harry Maguire
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prestonibbo_mcfc
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Don't want a comparable player. Want a better player.
prestonibbo_mcfc
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We are currently checking the size of his 'ead.
itisrising
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If it's as big as Vinny's we sign him!
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Nah. No need. They just got their coaching badges.
I don't think this tells us about quality as much as the instructions they've been given by a manager.
Neville Kneville
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There's another problem with the way the Maguire "transfer" is being presented and that is the Premier League wages cap.
These are laid out in the PL handbook in section E-19 that anyone can download from the PL web-site.
In brief, your wagebill can increase each season by £7m which is very approx £150k pw to keep it in simple figures. In the past Utd have circumvented this rule as you can use rising revenues to offset excess....but Utd are out of the CL so this this season they have to adhere to the rule.
In the Summer, Utd released Herrera and Valencia. I don't know how much they were on, but given that Utd have the highest wage bill in the country let's assume that it's £400k pw between them. That means that they have £550k pw to play with but they've already used £200k on James and AWB, so it means that they have £350k pw headroom.
The result is that they are juggling players wages. They could just about meet Maguire's wage-bill, but it would be close, and I don't think they would want to be right on the edge as it would allow them zero flexibility in the event of injury etc in the Jan window.
Of course you wont see this mentioned in the papers because they use transfer headlines to sell papers, but Maguire can only really become a Man Utd target if they sell another player i.e. Lukaku. This is another reason why James and AWB were targets for Man Utd.....low wage expectations (only £100k pw - they are low compared to Pogba and Sanchez).
These are laid out in the PL handbook in section E-19 that anyone can download from the PL web-site.
In brief, your wagebill can increase each season by £7m which is very approx £150k pw to keep it in simple figures. In the past Utd have circumvented this rule as you can use rising revenues to offset excess....but Utd are out of the CL so this this season they have to adhere to the rule.
In the Summer, Utd released Herrera and Valencia. I don't know how much they were on, but given that Utd have the highest wage bill in the country let's assume that it's £400k pw between them. That means that they have £550k pw to play with but they've already used £200k on James and AWB, so it means that they have £350k pw headroom.
The result is that they are juggling players wages. They could just about meet Maguire's wage-bill, but it would be close, and I don't think they would want to be right on the edge as it would allow them zero flexibility in the event of injury etc in the Jan window.
Of course you wont see this mentioned in the papers because they use transfer headlines to sell papers, but Maguire can only really become a Man Utd target if they sell another player i.e. Lukaku. This is another reason why James and AWB were targets for Man Utd.....low wage expectations (only £100k pw - they are low compared to Pogba and Sanchez).
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Good points Marvin
Great way to look at the transfer decisions.There's another problem with the way the Maguire "transfer" is being presented and that is the Premier League wages cap.
These are laid out in the PL handbook in section E-19 that anyone can download from the PL web-site.
In brief, your wagebill can increase each season by £7m which is very approx £150k pw to keep it in simple figures. In the past Utd have circumvented this rule as you can use rising revenues to offset excess....but Utd are out of the CL so this this season they have to adhere to the rule.
In the Summer, Utd released Herrera and Valencia. I don't know how much they were on, but given that Utd have the highest wage bill in the country let's assume that it's £400k pw between them. That means that they have £550k pw to play with but they've already used £200k on James and AWB, so it means that they have £350k pw headroom.
The result is that they are juggling players wages. They could just about meet Maguire's wage-bill, but it would be close, and I don't think they would want to be right on the edge as it would allow them zero flexibility in the event of injury etc in the Jan window.
Of course you wont see this mentioned in the papers because they use transfer headlines to sell papers, but Maguire can only really become a Man Utd target if they sell another player i.e. Lukaku. This is another reason why James and AWB were targets for Man Utd.....low wage expectations (only £100k pw - they are low compared to Pogba and Sanchez).
thepolarbear
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I'm from Scotland where its called a "Heid"
I think it explains their move to buy James and AWB, rather than the likes of Ibra/Sanchez. They are forced by their new circumstances.
I used this rule last season to try and explain why they wouldn't sack Mourinho....on the grounds that it would trigger payments that they could not afford but they were back in the CL last season and got through the group stages so it became relevant.
There are a couple of grey areas for me such as the accounting method which Utd use, but this should definitely be looked into, or we as a fanbase should be aware of it.
Lukaku looks like one who could go. I don't rate him as an elite striker, but he does get a lot of goals, and so far tRashford has looked better on the wing than he has up front. So if Utd sell Lukaku, they'll probably have to replace him.
tolmie's hairdoo
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We're not. We want him. We haven't made an official bid. United are not confident, which is why they are deliberately avoiding courting him through the press, as they don't want to be embarrassed if Maguire chooses us.
I expect the fee to be around £70m with add-ons.
There are no other takers, so Leicester are in a difficult spot. The player was made a promise last year and wants to leave for City.
At the moment they only have the wage head-room to make one big signing, and even then it would be less than a £75m signing might expect at Man Utd. Sanchez wages are already out of the question.
It looks pretty likely that they will sell Lukaku so you can't rule them out of going for Maguire but it's worth thinking about the new financial background to Man Utd's transfers, and it probably explains their strategy this Summer. They will of course present it as a footballing decision by OGS to go for youth whereas the reality is that Woodward could do nothing else.
Well that sheds new light on it. I thought I'd smoke you out eventually.
Utd are out of it anyway I think unless they sell Lukaku.
This promise to sell him if a big club comes in for him, is that a verbal promise, or written into his contract i.e. if a club in the CL etc make a bid for him, Leicester are forced to put it to the player?
If we are interested, and I am not convinced we are, then now would be the perfect time to strike with a bid because realistically Utd can't bid for him without offloading a player and that puts them in a position I don't think they want to be in.
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Blueknows
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I really don't think we are in for him.....as Pep said in the Amazon doc re Maguire , hes slow and can be got at
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