Cricket World Cup 2019 - England World Champions!!!

The law states: 'If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be any runs for penalties awarded to either side, and the allowance for the boundary, and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.'

"The crucial clause is the last part. A review of the footage of the incident shows clearly that, at the moment the ball was released by the New Zealand fielder, Martin Guptill, Stokes and his partner, Adil Rashid, had not yet crossed for their second run.

"There is potential scope for ambiguity in the wording of the law, given that it references throw or "act", which may pertain to the moment that the ball deflected off Stokes' bat.

My friend who is an umpire in the Birmingham League says "Wilfull act" or "act" means if the fielder deliberately throws the ball out of play to reduce the number of runs scored (e.g. the batsmen have already run 5 runs and the fielder throws the ball out of play to try and reduce the runs scored from the delivery). It does not apply in this case..

All that counts here is overthrows, and an overthrow is called if the ball goes over the boundary, no matter how it gets there; retrospectively applied to the point when the fielder threw the ball.

My friend would give 5 runs if he could see the players hadn't crossed, 6 otherwise. That said the speed at which professional players run makes it difficult to judge if they had crossed from the scoring umpires perspective. The other umpire had a much better view and should have given him a signal to say if he thought the players hadn't crossed the moment the ball was thrown.

So both umpires made a mistake but it happens and mistakes can't be delt with retrospectively. As my friend says if the mistake is not promptly corrected on the field the decision stands.

He also says the West Indian umpire was a bit keen on giving wides so another umpire would probably have knocked a few runs off the NZ total.
 
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NZ 241/8
England 241 all out

None of this more boundaries shite, NZ should have won by 2 wickets. To be fair though, the kiwis are taking it well here and it adds extra spice to England's summer tour.

I'm pretty sure the Stokes family will be keeping a low profile.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Shane Warne, " England didn't really beat New Zealand and New Zealand were the better side" . When will TV companies learn not to put bitter Australians on as pundits.

i think england was the better team just, that bit that won the world cup

am 1 of england biggest critics at times and the ECB are clueless and our game is based around the english summers with swing bowlers and that's it, nothing really is done about the winters tours and the last away ashes was one of the worst, but this win will paper over the cracks and jofra archer will be the new poster boy,

Bit soon to be ranting about England failures in test cricket! The ECB have transformed England from ODI embarrassments to World Cup winners. They got the right people in. The test team has always been solid and was number 1 ranked going back not too far. Our T20 team made the last final and lost it in a mad last over.

It is a summer game and most of our cricketers play over here when it comes the longer format. No surprise they then struggle a bit abroad. Same as all other countries. Play at home you tend to win more than you lose and vice versa away. The growth of t20 cricket is why many of our test players actually play barely any longer format matches and can be raw when it comes to tests.

But why would a young cricketer want to be a test player when he can make a fortune playing in the IPL, Big Bash etc each year?!

Enjoy the win. World champions and one of the best endings to any cricket game ever in any format!
 
The maddest thing is that next year the 50 over cup is essentially turning into a 2nd XI/development competition. The stars won't play in it, overseas players are barred, and it's on at the same time as the pointless Hundred rubbish. This year, they got the 50 over thing done quickly to avoid the World Cup, but next year - nope, clear the calendar for Not-The-T20.

I agree with @ancoats, the ECB really aren't competent at what they're doing, and aren't seeing the whole game.
 
When did England win the rugby league World Cup?

Great Britain has won it three times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_World_Cup

The most recent was in 1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Rugby_League_World_Cup when the final was drawn after extra time, and GB won it based on their superior performance in the group games. The Aussies had a try wrongly ruled out in that final, as well: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...r/news-story/efe43d87e756f6908bf36c17f82e7ae4

So similarities to Sunday, in that the final was level and they resorted to a tiebreaker, while there was a moment of officiating controversy.
 
Great Britain has won it three times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_World_Cup

The most recent was in 1972: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Rugby_League_World_Cup when the final was drawn after extra time, and GB won it based on their superior performance in the group games. The Aussies had a try wrongly ruled out in that final, as well: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...r/news-story/efe43d87e756f6908bf36c17f82e7ae4

So similarities to Sunday, in that the final was level and they resorted to a tiebreaker, while there was a moment of officiating controversy.

 
NZ 241/8
England 241 all out

None of this more boundaries shite, NZ should have won by 2 wickets. To be fair though, the kiwis are taking it well here and it adds extra spice to England's summer tour.

I'm pretty sure the Stokes family will be keeping a low profile.
There's already clear evidence that batting second is a disadvantage so going back to the wickets rule isn't fair and it could still easily come down to one bad umpiring decision. The fact here is all the players know the rules and by competing in the competition agree to them. The fairest way really, seeing as it is "who is the best team in the competition" would be to give it to the team that finished higher in the qualification table.
 
The maddest thing is that next year the 50 over cup is essentially turning into a 2nd XI/development competition. The stars won't play in it, overseas players are barred, and it's on at the same time as the pointless Hundred rubbish. This year, they got the 50 over thing done quickly to avoid the World Cup, but next year - nope, clear the calendar for Not-The-T20.

I agree with @ancoats, the ECB really aren't competent at what they're doing, and aren't seeing the whole game.

the ECB really do take the piss out of the fans and take them for granted, and the ashes at home are all that matters to them, bums on seats and tickets sales that are all ready sold 2 years before they play them, its the tradition in playing the ashes and the tournament is set in stone and the ECB milk the system and fans
 
Bit soon to be ranting about England failures in test cricket! The ECB have transformed England from ODI embarrassments to World Cup winners. They got the right people in. The test team has always been solid and was number 1 ranked going back not too far. Our T20 team made the last final and lost it in a mad last over.

It is a summer game and most of our cricketers play over here when it comes the longer format. No surprise they then struggle a bit abroad. Same as all other countries. Play at home you tend to win more than you lose and vice versa away. The growth of t20 cricket is why many of our test players actually play barely any longer format matches and can be raw when it comes to tests.

But why would a young cricketer want to be a test player when he can make a fortune playing in the IPL, Big Bash etc each year?!

Enjoy the win. World champions and one of the best endings to any cricket game ever in any format!

real cricket is test match cricket and anything else is just for fun

everybody who can play for england or the aussies dream of playing in the ashes and its what you will be judge on, test cricket is the pinnacle and you are judged on and all the record and history and adding your name to the history books is worth more than money
 
Cheer up mate, we’ve just won the World Cup!

but its not just about winning the one day cricket world cup that will paper over the cracks, its will it over spill into test cricket and start to build on future overseas tours that england are crap at, because we are setup to be a home nation team that use swing bowlers in our conditions and the ECB are happy with
 

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