BBC forced to withdraw claim that Man City have bought English football.

Watching any match on any TV channel is so annoying. In "The good old days" the camera would follow the game and commentators like Ken Wolstenholme would describe the action.
Today so many replay of incidents or focusing on some half-famous "celeb" in the stands and camera has almost missed a goal or quickly taken free kick or corner. Plus the advent of two talking head in the commentary box means they spend much of the time, not on the action, but chatting amongst themselves. "I mean that Clive, I really do"
Every bloody rag home game they have to zoom in on Bobby Bloody Charlton in the first half and Bacon in the 2nd.... United bingo!
 
On the subject of the OP, I don't know if this is a standard part of the BBC complaints process now but yesterday I received an invitation from a Sam Smith, Head of BBC Audience Services to provide feedback via an independent agency called ICM (part of Walnut Unlimited.) This is part of my input, cobbling together many points already made on this thread:

Sport related but I believe this incident shows clearly how the BBC is losing its integrity and impartiality.


My complaint was about their Sports Editor Dan Roan, the only reporter ever to be banned by Manchester City and who ever since has been even more blatantly biased against the club. https://www.mancity.com/news/club%20news/club%20news/archive/2012/march/man%20city%20ban%20bbc%20man%20dan%20roan


The main problem is not just about him, though he is an important part, it is also about his bosses. That’s because both he and they are very well aware that underlying his bias is a long-term commercial battle between Manchester City and the Premier League’s US owned rival clubs together with their European allies. Essentially it is about their hostility to the City owner’s business model, which ploughs back all profits back into the club unlike profits from their clubs which are mostly go out of football completely. For example the Glazer family have taken almost the same amount of money out of Manchester United as Sheikh Mansour has invested in City since 2008, over £1 billion. While City is debt free United were subject to a leveraged buyout with £525m debts loaded on to the club, including £275m high interest “payment in kind” loans.


In this high stakes financial contest between top level football clubs Dan Roan and BBC Sport have lined up squarely with City’s opponents. So last Wednesday on the BBC National News at 10, in the high profile start of season interview with the head of the Premier League, Roan’s first question was "Is Manchester City's financial clout making the league predictable?


It is important to know that City do not have any record transfer fees in the top 20, they do not have the highest wage bill in the PL, they have not spent as much as the other top PL teams. While there's no doubt that they spent a lot of money, City's ‘financial clout’ is actually very similar to that Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. The question of ‘financial clout ‘ damaging the competition has never featured during the previous 30 years of league domination by those clubs, and one is invited to ask why is it only relevant now? His question contains a clear implication that City’s 'financial clout' is qualitatively different from that of other clubs. In short it is because its source is an owner with a radically different approach to football club ownership.


In recent years a number of major media organisations influenced by the US owned PL clubs have engaged in a relentless negative narrative aimed at undermining to City's achievements through the development of a racist fiction that City’s owner is in reality “a corrupt Arab state engaged in the practice of ‘sportswashing’ its human rights abusing and undemocratic culture.” Roan and BBC Sport have chosen to associate the national broadcaster with this disgusting campaign of smears and lies.


Through his questioning Roan is openly claiming City’s owner has access to unlimited wealth which is being unfairly used to damage football. This claim is utterly false and is being made to damage the reputation of Manchester City.


Within a few hours of the broadcast as a result of action by Manchester City and Premier League lawyers the whole news bulletin was taken off the iPlayer. In the version on the BBC website the interview’s first question was completely edited out and the sequence re-ordered. The article headline is now about tackling racism but Dan Roan's racist attack on Man City's owners seems to have gone unnoticed by the editors and his superiors. This is at the heart of my complaint about Mr Roan. The video clip no longer contains Roan's question or Richard Master's strong rejection of the untruthful allegation that Manchester City's dominance on the field was the result of their 'financial clout'. Nevertheless the associated Q & A extracts still retain the disgraceful attack underlying Roan’s often repeated prejudiced narrative.

The BBC Complaints Department later attempted to justify this blatant hostility by claiming Roan was 'asking the questions our audience would want us to ask' . The plain truth is that he is pandering to their biggest target football demographic of Manchester United & Liverpool fans - which includes a disproportionate number of the BBC’s own staff. For example the current head of BBC Sports Media was recruited from MUTV and their full time Manchester City FC correspondent is their long-serving former Manchester United correspondent and lifetime supporter.


Sorry this is so long and angry.

Superb work mate.
 
You clearly cannot imagine the negative impact that no BBC would have on all our lives.

If you could trust them I’d agree.

In principle it’s a fantastic establishment, a completely impartial media corporation that’s funded to ensure its impartiality can not be influenced. However all organisations are made up of people & they can be influenced otherwise it would have been sold off yo the highest bidder with the gas, water & mail etc

 
On the subject of the OP, I don't know if this is a standard part of the BBC complaints process now but yesterday I received an invitation from a Sam Smith, Head of BBC Audience Services to provide feedback via an independent agency called ICM (part of Walnut Unlimited.) This is part of my input, cobbling together many points already made on this thread:
##snip#

That's good. Keeps it mostly focussed on Roan and his piece, which is a good idea.

For confirmation, who is the "full time Manchester City FC correspondent" mentioned?
 
On the subject of the OP, I don't know if this is a standard part of the BBC complaints process now but yesterday I received an invitation from a Sam Smith, Head of BBC Audience Services to provide feedback via an independent agency called ICM (part of Walnut Unlimited.) This is part of my input, cobbling together many points already made on this thread:

Sport related but I believe this incident shows clearly how the BBC is losing its integrity and impartiality.


My complaint was about their Sports Editor Dan Roan, the only reporter ever to be banned by Manchester City and who ever since has been even more blatantly biased against the club. https://www.mancity.com/news/club%20news/club%20news/archive/2012/march/man%20city%20ban%20bbc%20man%20dan%20roan


The main problem is not just about him, though he is an important part, it is also about his bosses. That’s because both he and they are very well aware that underlying his bias is a long-term commercial battle between Manchester City and the Premier League’s US owned rival clubs together with their European allies. Essentially it is about their hostility to the City owner’s business model, which ploughs back all profits back into the club unlike profits from their clubs which mostly go out of football completely. For example the Glazer family have taken almost the same amount of money out of Manchester United as Sheikh Mansour has invested in City since 2008, over £1 billion. While City is debt free United were subject to a leveraged buyout with £525m debts loaded on to the club, including £275m high interest “payment in kind” loans.


In this high stakes financial contest between top level football clubs Dan Roan and BBC Sport have lined up squarely with City’s opponents. So last Wednesday on the BBC National News at 10, in the high profile start of season interview with the head of the Premier League, Roan’s first question was "Is Manchester City's financial clout making the league predictable?


It is important to know that City do not have any record transfer fees in the top 20, they do not have the highest wage bill in the PL, they have not spent as much as the other top PL teams. While there's no doubt that they spent a lot of money, City's ‘financial clout’ is actually very similar to that Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. The question of ‘financial clout ‘ damaging the competition has never featured during the previous 30 years of league domination by those clubs, and one is invited to ask why is it only relevant now? His question contains a clear implication that City’s 'financial clout' is qualitatively different from that of other clubs. In short it is because its source is an owner with a radically different approach to football club ownership.


In recent years a number of major media organisations influenced by the US owned PL clubs have engaged in a relentless negative narrative aimed at undermining to City's achievements through the development of a racist fiction that City’s owner is in reality “a corrupt Arab state engaged in the practice of ‘sportswashing’ its human rights abusing and undemocratic culture.” Roan and BBC Sport have chosen to associate the national broadcaster with this disgusting campaign of smears and lies.


Through his questioning Roan is openly claiming City’s owner has access to unlimited wealth which is being unfairly used to damage football. This claim is utterly false and is being made to damage the reputation of Manchester City.


Within a few hours of the broadcast as a result of action by Manchester City and Premier League lawyers the whole news bulletin was taken off the iPlayer. In the version on the BBC website the interview’s first question was completely edited out and the sequence re-ordered. The article headline is now about tackling racism but Dan Roan's racist attack on Man City's owners seems to have gone unnoticed by the editors and his superiors. This is at the heart of my complaint about Mr Roan. The video clip no longer contains Roan's question or Richard Master's strong rejection of the untruthful allegation that Manchester City's dominance on the field was the result of their 'financial clout'. Nevertheless the associated Q & A extracts still retain the disgraceful attack underlying Roan’s often repeated prejudiced narrative.

The BBC Complaints Department later attempted to justify this blatant hostility by claiming Roan was 'asking the questions our audience would want us to ask' . The plain truth is that he is pandering to their biggest target football demographic of Manchester United & Liverpool fans - which includes a disproportionate number of the BBC’s own staff. For example the current head of BBC Sports Media was recruited from MUTV and their full time Manchester City FC correspondent is their long-serving former Manchester United correspondent and lifetime supporter.


Sorry this is so long and angry.
Excellent stuff and possibly your best post on BM (admittedly your bar was pretty low but still...)
 
You clearly cannot imagine the negative impact that no BBC would have on all our lives.

No BBC. No problem. The effects would be positive. Unlike you I'm not afraid of change.

While we're at it, I'd abolish the Monarchy, insist on a fully elected House of Lords and look forward to the day when we reestablish direct democracy in this country, i.e. leave the EU.
 
Every bloody rag home game they have to zoom in on Bobby Bloody Charlton in the first half and Bacon in the 2nd.... United bingo!

It's so boringly predictable isn't it? If it's the other mob then its Dalglish or Rush. The theatre of dreams, Anfield under the lights, these iconic stadiums blah fucking blah. Crush the lot of them, let the camera's pan in on their pained faces and bitter tears of disappointment.
 
That's good. Keeps it mostly focussed on Roan and his piece, which is a good idea.

For confirmation, who is the "full time Manchester City FC correspondent" mentioned?
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