It has one thing to do with sovereignty Chris . It's absolute, it can't be argued with and it's worth fuck all in the modern world.This is fuck all to do with sovereignty
Yet you're now in a position where Johnson may well be able to neuter parliament to push his own wishes through and the brexiteers think that they're taking back sovereignty.No it isn’t. Sovereignty is where ultimate law making authority rests. Parliament in this country has the ability to make or unmake any law. There is not a single body with or outwith the United Kingdom that can, ultimately, override Parliament without Parliamentary consent. In the case specifically of any law emanating from the EU, Parliament has, and always did have, the legal ability to say ‘that is not the law here.’ There may be consequences in political and economic terms of any such decision, but Parliament can, as I say, make or unmake any law it chooses. Ultimately, our constitution provides that Parliament has the final say on what the law of the UK should be.
That is what sovereignty is. Nothing more, nothing less. It is also why the idea of sovereignty was hijacked during the referendum by those who either did not understand what sovereignty is, or did know but lied about the supposed loss of it.
Yes we can, but with every "veto" we move further and further away from the "EU", to the point there's practically no point being part of it and instead focus on it merely being about frictionless trade and ending all political association.If you strongly object to a directive you can veto it. Next.
You lot have a veto, as do we. Parliamentary and constitutional democracy.No you can't. Directives may be subject to qualified majority voting.
2 speed Europe mate.Yes we can, but with every "veto" we move further and further away from the "EU", to the point there's practically no point being part of it and instead focus on it merely being about frictionless trade and ending all political association.
Not too much to ask for, is it?
It's av awful shame that after all the vetoes we gave you the UK government are going to try to take you out of the equation by overriding parliament. Taking back sovereignty and all thatYes we can, but with every "veto" we move further and further away from the "EU", to the point there's practically no point being part of it and instead focus on it merely being about frictionless trade and ending all political association.
Not too much to ask for, is it?
Not a concept federal Europhiles like Verhofstadt are happy with.2 speed Europe mate.
Why did you answer twice?It's av awful shame that after all the vetoes we gave you the UK government are going to try to take you out of the equation by overriding parliament. Taking back sovereignty and all that
You're obsessed with Verhofstadt mate, I know a lad that works as a clerk in his office, I'd be more then happy for you to meet him. He holds far less power than the Indian that wants to starve the Irish.Not a concept federal Europhiles like Verhofstadt are happy with.
People like him want all sovereign powers handed over to Brussels, and it's no longer becoming a minority view.
Didn't post the first time.Why did you answer twice?
Taking back sovereignty was about returning it to the electorate, not the trough-feeders. Removing the EU influence and those who fed off it.
I agree...but again, itll need done before Brexit....
Like remainers are obsessed with Farage?You're obsessed with Verhofstadt mate, I know a lad that works as a clerk in his office, I'd be more then happy for you to meet him. He holds far less power than the Indian that wants to starve the Irish.
Which law was disobeyed?Didn't post the first time.
The point stands. You only have sovereignty when your PM causes a constitutional crisis by refusing to obey the law.
This is the bit I’ve never understood. Why not one politician has suggested going back to the EU and telling them what it’ll take for us to see stay in.This is all a chance to reset but predictably it will be wasted by all, much to the delight of the fuckers who rule the roost.
Pssshhh. You have no idea what a hard border here means.
In more other news.I see the unelected, unaccountable John Bolton has been promising a ‘brilliant trade deal’ following discussions with the unelected and unaccountable Dominic Cummings. Dominic is also at the forefront of doing ‘whatever it takes, including proroguing parliament if necessary, to secure a no-deal Brexit.
#takingbackcontrol.
In other news, Boris announces that he now has a ‘war-cabinet’ (made up of 6 men just like his hero Winston Churchill) and that any MPs opposed to Brexit are, in fact, “collaborators”. He doesn’t want no-deal (why not, if it’s going to be so brilliant, one may wonder?) but is now promoting the message that no deal will be the ‘fault’ of remainers, the Irish and the rest of the untrustworthy EU members. Again, why bother, if no-deal is where it’s at?
Him and his mates certainly do own the language of, and are still fascinated by, the Second World War and it’s similarity to the Brexit situation. Can’t see it myself but the comments on the bbc and mail are full of the usual pithy comments like:“it’s a pity treason doesn’t still carry the death penalty”.
They've said the same to the EU as well, putting the scuppers on any EU-US trade deal.In more other news.
A US-UK trade deal will not get through Congress if Brexit undermines the Good Friday Agreement, the Speaker (elected) of the US House of Representatives has said. And to think, it had all been going so well.......
The ECJ takes the view that, once a directive is passed, it is the law in EU countries and is actionable.
Your definition is no different to mine, except it is more verbose. The British constitution can say what it likes, but ever closer union impacts parliaments ability to legislate.
Biggest problem is that we are going to be a tad more desperate than the EU, I’d have thought.They've said the same to the EU as well, putting the scuppers on any EU-US trade deal.