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blueinsa said:
You can hide behind criminals and terrorists Bob but it isn't for me I'm afraid and if they feel the need to bomb a livestock checkpoint then I'm sure the security services of the UK and Ireland will deal with them.

Seeing as you go back to 72, i will go back to this...

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/l...sit-on-bomb-as-i-was-late-for-coach-1-8795940

My Mum, myself and my unborn brother only didn't get on because my uncle gave us a lift as my Mum was due to give birth imminently.

Fuck the murdering bastards and forgive me for not giving a single shit what they think.

Send the SAS back in and hunt the twats down is my advice but thats me going off topic so apologies.
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Nothing wrong with animosity based on a personal experience. I would probably react the same.
 
Ban-jani said:
The government collapses if they don’t end FoM, that’s why, May as a remainer, put a red line on it. There’s what, 80 or so ERG Tory MP’s? The thin majority they have isn’t strong enough and that’s why it’s such a big issue.

Immigration was consistently in the top 3 reasons for leaving and it’s too big an issue. At this point in time, leaving with a soft Brexit and retaining the Four Freedoms would be entirely sensible and would ensure our economy continues to be successful. It would also make sense because of the leave winning margin being a slim one.

It’s just not going to happen I’m afraid.
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No, it won't happen, we'll end up staying in, pissing off a huge portion of the electorate and this issue will drag on for years, creating more and more uncertainty and opportunism for the likes of Farage to exploit making political discourse in the UK even worse.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Quite possibly the first thing I've really agreed with you on.
The thing about the DUP and the likes of the CIRA is that neither of them supported the GFA.
Ironically Paisley eventually got on board and was part of a successful Assembly. Since him and McGuinness are gone the DUP seem to have gone back into their entrenched view of things. My suspicion is that direct rule suits them at the moment as it distances them from the GFA and leans back to their Union view of the future.

This void as you say is a huge contributing factor to the unrest brewing and the confidence of the likes of the CIRA increasing.

I know some on here have strong views that the GFA is being used as a weapon against Brexit. (I'm not one of them)
I do feel and I'm sure a lot North and South of the border feel that the DUP in particular have used Brexit as a weapon aginst the GFA.
Not planned obviously, but pure opportunism.
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Yep there is pure opportunism on both sides

And given you view the GFA as badly fractured at the moment anyway - why should the UK population accept that it should be the driving force for deciding key UK policy?
 
aguero93:20 said:
The US, Australia, New Zealand, India will I go on?
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By all means, and please, if you can provide snippits as to when they said "no trade with UK" ever.

I could google it, but considering they never said anything like that, i'd need something specific to go on.
 
BobKowalski said:
Ah ‘some infrastructure...away from the border’. A bit like the Newry customs office bombing that was ‘infrastructure...away from the border’. Think we are making progress.
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The problem here is that remainers are dangerously close to aligning themselves with terrorists where it suits their argument. Ironic when you consider navy of the same folk are the ones happy to accuse all leavers as having 'voted with' the racists. Lower than a snakes belly as the Australians would say.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
By all means, and please, if you can provide snippits as to when they said "no trade with UK" ever.

I could google it, but considering they never said anything like that, i'd need something specific to go on.
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The US have said ni to a trade deal with the UK if the GFA is threatened, Google that.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
What a ridiculous post

Are you actually not following events ?

We could never get to that position once we voted to leave as the eu would not and still do not allow us to talk about a trade deal

Do you not remember the bit where the eu said we will NOT talk a trade deal with You until the withdrawal act is agreed and signed and 40 bill deposited in our account.

We may end up with Norway or customs 2.0 but unfortunately your good friends at the eu are not interested in talking about it.

Btw I hope you realise that even if we do leave with a deal , the withdrawal agreement or an amended version that still means we leave with no trade deal. There is no legally binding trade deal going forward as the eu would not allow it.
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The truth can be so inconvenient
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The problem here is that remainers are dangerously close to aligning themselves with terrorists where it suits their argument. Ironic when you consider navy of the same folk are the ones happy to accuse all leavers as having 'voted with' the racists. Lower than a snakes belly as the Australians would say.
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One man's terrorist...
 
aguero93:20 said:
I presume they've got freedom of movement into the EU then, since your brought it up.
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Only on a short term basis, which is a change from their usual policy of "absolutely nobody, ever".

Nothing like a full FoM policy like we have currently.
 
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