Var debate 2019/20

[SWP's back]

The thing I’m happy about today is that var checked two probable penalties for the ref scum and didn’t overrule Tierney so they’re at least consistently useless.

 

[kaz7]

Ball goes no where near Jesus without hitting him.

But either way, it’s a fucking shite and they shouldn’t have changed it from last year.

It's not if it hit him he has to gain possession/control and create the GSO he didn't do any of that,they stick by their rules or they don't

 

[Damanino]

Cant wait for Swarbrick to come out with explanation of Martial pulling why not pen. He has to say bad things about a United player or will he shut up unlike in Rodri case?

 

[SWP's back]

It's not if it hit him he has to gain possession/control and create the GSO he didn't do any of that,they stick by their rules or they don't

Not according to PGMOL or even Mark Halsey (who as I say isn’t the normal “never disagree with a ref” type).

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

So the scum get a few penalty appeals looked at, fine. But why the fuck wasn't our blatant one missed last week ? Like I said before, it's bent and flawed. #NO CONSISTENCY.

 

[SWP's back]

So the scum get a few penalty appeals looked at, fine. But why the fuck wasn't our blatant one missed last week ? Like I said before, it's bent and flawed. #NO CONSISTENCY.

Eh? Ours was looked at, United’s were looked at (two of them), var didn’t overrule the ref in either game.

Var is shit but we don’t need to make stuff up about it.

 

[meltonblue]

So the scum get a few penalty appeals looked at, fine. But why the fuck wasn't our blatant one missed last week ? Like I said before, it's bent and flawed. #NO CONSISTENCY.

There was consistency though, they didn't intervene in our one last week and they didn't intervene today either for two clear ones in the United game (or for Chelsea in their game either). The problem is it doesn't suit some of the narrative on here that is a bias issue when it isn't - it's a competence issue.

 

[Newman Noggs]

The thing I’m happy about today is that var checked two probable penalties for the ref scum and didn’t overrule Tierney so they’re at least consistently useless.

What concerns me, though, is that I was hoping that VAR might put a bit of a brake on Salah's antics. Looks like a vain hope.

 

[kaz7]

Not according to PGMOL or even Mark Halsey (who as I say isn’t the normal “never disagree with a ref” type).

The governing body set the rules,it is very clear

 

[simon23]

Not at any time did eric gain controll/.possession of the ball,that is the governing bodies rule,it was raz v west ham and again according to the prems own rules it was not clear and obvious,do you even read the rules

Look at the rule and then look at the explanation of the rule where the wording makes it slightly different...

I agree the bit you are quoting makes sense to your argument but there is another bit which you are completely filing to even acknowledge in the IFAB guaidance...

Yes i know the rules.....have you read the complete explantion...look at the link that was posted to IFAB the other day or if you want here is a copy and paste of it:

Deliberate handball remains an offence. The following ‘handball’ situations, even if accidental, will be a free kick:

• the ball goes into the goal after touching an attacking player’s hand/arm.

• a player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity

• the ball touches a player’s hand/arm which has made their body unnaturally bigger

• the ball touches a player’s hand/arm when it is above their shoulder (unless the player has deliberately played the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

thats not my words - that is a direct copy and paste from the IFAB site.

It is an offence (though it was accidental) and a free kick as the ball has gone into the net after his a players (Laporte's arm)....no he hasnt been in control or possession (though because he has changed the flight of the ball you could even argue that if you wanted to but Im not going to bother) but here is the important bit....OR creates a goal scoring opportunity (which laportes' arm accidentally did) as the ball changed direction off his arm and fell to the feet of GJ) who then scored after one touch.

The OR bit means he doesnt even have to be in control or possession. It means its an offence if the ball comes off his (or any players arm) and then creates a goal scoring opportinutiy regardless of possession.....






here is the full link:

http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/786/111531_110319_IFAB_LoG_at_a_Glance.pdf