Security in the stadium

I was in one of the P queues in the south stand about 14:25 today. I joined the shortest one but soon realised this was a mistake as the person scanning was taking forever for some reason. There was a steward all wired up like RoboCop leaning on a barrier watching this, I presume he was supervising nothing. Loads of others loitering around with wands also doing nothing as the frustration grew.

Eventually one of them started calling us forward to get us out of the slow lane. As I got level with the steward in the slow lane I realised the problem. Young lad about 25, Irish accent I think, full of attitude glaring at everyone. The old guy behind me lost his balance and fell over into one of the barriers and Mr aggressive was asking "Are you alright mate?" but said in that challenging way, not concern, as he continued glaring at everyone. Just prior to this he had been arguing with a guy late forties as he wanded him, hence the big delay. As we entered the ground I asked him what it was about and it transpired he wanted to frisk search him on top of using the wand, totally Ott.

Showsec who do the searches and the bus control after the game are useless. There are loads of them but very few appear to know what they are doing. The ones on the bus control mainly stand chatting until someone shouts at them and stirs them into some form of confused action and they open the barriers. I hope we are not going backwards with all this just when it appeared things were improving slightly.
 
This all reminds me of the situation in the US around 9-11 I lived in Boston at the time(the departure point of two of the aircraft)and security was carried out by people on minimum wage $6 an hour back then if my memory is correct and yet the State Police handled illegal parking outside the terminals on $38 an hour. Clearly there was a much greater risk from "bad" people gaining control of planes than "bad" people double parking outside. At the end of the day the reason behind both this and what happens at City every home game, is not to be effective(in both cases they clearly aren't/weren't)but to simply be able to pass the blame and say they did all that they could. City's security won't stop grenades or other explosive devices, but if someone lets them off the club can say........... it's not our fault and going back to the US Airports they are still paying people minimum wage to check your access to a plane out and they got off without anyone challenging their efforts

TSA agents make almost 20 USD an hour, $19.32 if I remember correctly. But why would a fact get in the way of a random attack against someone/someplace for some reason.

By law enforcement and court of law standards, if you lie once you will always lie and can't be trusted. Just saying...
 
What was with the extra line of stewards in the south stand today? Looked like they were checking everyone's tickets for the small block next to the away fans.
They were checking every rows season ticket and proceeded to watch each row the entire game. Were most abrupt. I presumed they were looking for someone in particular but they stayed the entire match eye balling everyone.

Apparently a member of showsec around row Z was very aggressive unnecessarily to a blue who put him on his arse for his troubles
 
They were checking every rows season ticket and proceeded to watch each row the entire game. Were most abrupt. I presumed they were looking for someone in particular but they stayed the entire match eye balling everyone.

Apparently a member of showsec around row Z was very aggressive unnecessarily to a blue who put him on his arse for his troubles
It was fine in SS3 even when a woman bright a bottle of beer up at HT, she was escorted back inside & returned presumably after drinking the bottle.

Was the issue in SS1? Perhaps linked to the Spurs woman who was punched?
 
Looked like they were trying a new system today that actually made things worse. I went in Z as usual and it was fine but the queues at Y looked massive and people weren’t all in until 10 minutes after kick off.
It seemed they had extra staff with wands but they did queuing airport style where there was one queue for about 6 wand wavers, and people were waiting for one to be free before walking up to them. This meant the wand wavers were waiting half the time for people to walk over rather than doing it constantly. Think they need to think again.
We were stuck in the queue at Gate Y. Totally disorganised and unnecessary. The system they had before worked fine. First lesson of organisation, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
TSA agents make almost 20 USD an hour, $19.32 if I remember correctly. But why would a fact get in the way of a random attack against someone/someplace for some reason.

By law enforcement and court of law standards, if you lie once you will always lie and can't be trusted. Just saying...
Boris Johnson doesn’t like this post......
 
This was a first for us yesterday. My sister was asked to take the lid off her water bottle
,( Wait for it) ,,,,,so he could sniff the contents. For fucks sake and there was me thinking
he just wanted the lid. Thank fuck he didn't have a runny nose !!
 
We were stuck in the queue at Gate Y. Totally disorganised and unnecessary. The system they had before worked fine. First lesson of organisation, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Unfortunately the first lesson for many organisations is "If it ain't broke bring in a consultant to tell you how to break it while convincing the punters and employees that you've made it better."
 

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