Another new Brexit thread

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That the was the deal that dared not speak its name.

And it was Foot interestingly, not the 'right' that objected. I've posted this clip before, just to make the point about the much higher quality of (both sides of) debate back then.

 

[George Hannah]

And it was Foot interestingly, not the 'right' that objected. I've posted this clip before, just to make the point about the much higher quality of (both sides of) debate back then.

Foot was right in everything he said, Heath secretly commited us to eventual full integration as the price of entry - he felt there was nothing could be done to revive our economy, control union power or defeat the IRA and saw a federal future as part of the EU as a possible solution.

 

[hilts]

And it was Foot interestingly, not the 'right' that objected. I've posted this clip before, just to make the point about the much higher quality of (both sides of) debate back then.

One thing is the same only 50% know what true democracy is.

Good lad Michael
Heath you tit

 

[cibaman]

Nothing to do with the fact that the Tories are now way ahead in the opinion polls and they fear a backlash from Leave voters? ;)

I think it’s more because it would be difficult to force Johnson out in time, there’s obviously disagreement over who would be interim PM, and a failed attempt to become PM might look bad for Corbyn once the election is eventually called.

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Nothing to do with the fact that the Tories are now way ahead in the opinion polls and they fear a backlash from Leave voters? ;)

Probably as much to do with the fact that once they get rid of no deal they will tear each others throats out.

 

[bluethrunthru]

@DavidLammy
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You threatened to "don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines" if you don't get your way on Brexit. We will protest your hard right politics of hate until we win.
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Nigel Farage
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For senior political figures to encourage street protests makes me wonder — are there any limits they won’t go to in order to stop Brexit?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Apologies.

****

I'm obliged.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Henry VII?
That's controversial.
Although not a popular monarch he did at least bring internal peace and prosperity to England and gave her a reputation in Europe she had not enjoyed for a century.

He was as ambitious as Johnson and just as ruthless.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yes, the thing with polls is they don’t tell you whats happening in individual seats, It’s highly unlikely they would get anywhere near the 13 seats they got in Scotland no matter what the polls say. The triple whammy of Brexit, Johnson and Davidson they will be lucky to get 3.
They will have seats they have taken from the Liberals recently a few Brexit party votes will see them swing back. So 34% doesn’t translate to seats. Its 3% down so if they lose seats to SNP and liberals they would need to be the main beneficiary of lost labour seats. I have no idea how many labour seats Conservatives were in second place and were winnable.
There will be no working majority either way so it will depend on those best placed to make deals and the tories only have the 10 or so DUP seats to count on.

You're assuming the DUP will be as influential after the next GE.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Foot was right in everything he said, Heath secretly commited us to eventual full integration as the price of entry - he felt there was nothing could be done to revive our economy, control union power or defeat the IRA and saw a federal future as part of the EU as a possible solution.

Given all three were reversed as part of our membership of the EEC/EU, then maybe Heath had a point.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I think this week will be a key week in this political battle.

No idea where it’s going.

 

[blueparrot]

You're assuming the DUP will be as influential after the next GE.

Cant say I know enough about NI politics to say how many seats they’d get or how popular they are. Though I suspect a lot of their votes are fairly entrenched.

 

[mcfc1632]

Without parliament he has no legal way to pass a deal. He's suspended parliament. He has no workable deal.

Seriously think that you are missing several/all the relevant points

 

[George Hannah]

Given all three were reversed as part of our membership of the EEC/EU, then maybe Heath had a point.

I heard him say exactly that when he came to Manchester for a lecture tour with JK Galbraith many years later.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I heard him say exactly that when he came to Manchester for a lecture tour with JK Galbraith many years later.

Did he sail.his boat up the Ship Canal?

 

[mcfc1632]

Without parliament he has no legal way to pass a deal. He's suspended parliament. He has no workable deal.

Not sure what point, if any, you are making here

 

[aguero93:20]

Which is why it looks to me like it’s heading towards a crash out.

Brexit aside, your boys got very lucky today.

 

[aguero93:20]

Not sure what point, if any, you are making here

You say the UK are offering a workable deal. I wonder why they've suspended the only body capable of passing that deal.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Did he sail.his boat up the Ship Canal?