I'm genuinley impressed by your mental gymnastics. My rather more simplistic reading of the referendum was that it presented a simple binary choice, which to date has not been enacted.It was only ignored if they voted firstly not understand how parliament works, and secondly if they though they were voting FOR something. They weren’t they were voting against membership of the EU, the vote never said what would or should replace it. Turns out the only thing that could possibly replace it was Mays deal, which the ERG and DUP killed, or a CU /SM that the tories imposed their own red lines on to prevent going down that road which would have been an easy road with cross party support, again, to pacify its own extremes and the DUP.
Nothing like a PM ignoring an act of parliament.
It can’t be binary if voting to leave can mean many different outcomes. From not being a member of the EU like Norway isn’t, to not being a member like Canada isn’t all the way to not being a member like the USA. Which one of those was your binary understanding of not being a member of the EU ?I'm genuinley impressed by your mental gymnastics. My rather more simplistic reading of the referendum was that it presented a simple binary choice, which to date has not been enacted.
I'm genuinley impressed by your mental gymnastics. My rather more simplistic reading of the referendum was that it presented a simple binary choice, which to date has not been enacted.
A couple of years after A50 was invoked by Parliament with the best deal available, or no Deal if that was better.With your simplistic reading of events how long after the vote and on what terms should we have left?
My binary understanding was in or out. Hence the term binary. The debate about the type of out is certainly valid, but does not excuse eternal procrastination by those who really just want to force another referendum or remain.It can’t be binary if voting to leave can mean many different outcomes. From not being a member of the EU like Norway isn’t, to not being a member like Canada isn’t all the way to not being a member like the USA. Which one of those was your binary understanding of not being a member of the EU ?
I’ll ask one last time when you voted what did you think out would look like. If you didn’t think what it would look like, then that explains why you can’t understand what’s happened since.My binary understanding was in or out. Hence the term binary. The debate about the type of out is certainly valid, but does not excuse eternal procrastination by those who really just want to force another referendum or remain.
I thought out would mean we would no longer be members of the EU. I can't really be more clear - much like the ballot paper itself.I’ll ask one last time when you voted what did you think out would look like. If you didn’t think what it would look like, then that explains why you can’t understand what’s happened since.
The old Brexit means Brexit, or Leave means Leave then. Both completely meaningless.I thought out would mean we would no longer be members of the EU. I can't really be more clear - much like the ballot paper itself.
And what if the deal we had was better than the one on offer and better than no deal?A couple of years after A50 was invoked by Parliament with the best deal available, or no Deal if that was better.
thats like saying open means open and closed means closed is meaningless. They might both be statements of the blindingly obvious that shouldn't need stating, but they are not 'meaningless'The old Brexit means Brexit, or Leave means Leave then. Both completely meaningless.
If the British courts found him guilty could he appeal to the European court?No it would be far more whateever side of brexit anyone is on, no-one should tolerate a PM ignoring the law and parliament.
Then I suggest you express your opinion at the political leadership of the country through your vote at the next GE.And what if the deal we had was better than the one on offer and better than no deal?
No they aren’t the same.thats like saying open means open and closed means closed is meaningless. They might both be statements of the blindingly obvious that shouldn't need stating, but they are not 'meaningless'
Thank you for not answering my question.Then I suggest you express your opinion at the political leadership of the country through your vote at the next GE.
I don't wish to be patronising by posting pics of the ballot paper and clips of Cameron clearly stating what the results of voting leave would be - I'm sure you are clever enough to google these yourself if needed.No they aren’t the same.
Thye answer is that if that were the case then they (parliament) should have gone for the deal. They didn't, hence my suggestion that you express your disappointment at the next GE in the way you see fit.Thank you for not answering my question.
A couple of years after A50 was invoked by Parliament with the best deal available, or no Deal if that was better.
This isn't difficult. If we vote for a door to be shut it can only be shut or open a binary choice. If we vote to leave the EU , do we leave with a deal or without, already not binary, if we leave with a deal what should that deal be ?I don't wish to be patronising by posting pics of the ballot paper and clips of Cameron clearly stating what the results of voting leave would be - I'm sure you are clever enough to google these yourself if needed.
This isn't difficult. If we vote for a door to be shut it can only be shut or open a binary choice. If we vote to leave the EU , do we leave with a deal or without, already not binary, if we leave with a deal what should that deal be ?
How can it be possible to vote leave but have no clue about what preference from the options available you want.
I’ll simplify it for you, choose 1 from 3. Or add your own preference.
1 No deal
2 Mays WA
3 A Norway types deal