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Johnson meeting the DUP in Downing Street today - #10 denying he is going to suggest a border down the Irish Sea to avoid a hard border - so that means he is going to float the idea and will get short shrift from them then. He really has run out of options.
 
Johnson meeting the DUP in Downing Street today - #10 denying he is going to suggest a border down the Irish Sea to avoid a hard border - so that means he is going to float the idea and will get short shrift from them then. He really has run out of options.
Theres a horrible visual image of Boris going down on Arlene to get a deal.
 
Johnson meeting the DUP in Downing Street today - #10 denying he is going to suggest a border down the Irish Sea to avoid a hard border - so that means he is going to float the idea and will get short shrift from them then. He really has run out of options.

He’s buggered.

Good.
 
Johnson meeting the DUP in Downing Street today - #10 denying he is going to suggest a border down the Irish Sea to avoid a hard border - so that means he is going to float the idea and will get short shrift from them then. He really has run out of options.
He’s only doing it so that he can claim to be seeking a solution. And then to be able to say that he’s been made aware just how such a solution would negatively impact the peace process as far as loyalists are concerned. If foster gave him any indication that she would agree to it he would have a dicky fit.
 
Several British lawmakers launched a new group on Tuesday to bolster efforts to secure a deal to leave the European Union, hoping to persuade parliament finally to pass an agreement based on one it rejected three times.

With the Brexit crisis deepening and parliament suspended, lawmakers are scrambling to find ways to prevent a disruptive no-deal Brexit at the end of October, which they say would hurt businesses, drive up job losses and deepen divides in Britain.

They have passed a law to force Prime Minister Boris Johnson to ask for a delay to Brexit if there is no deal, a move he says will tie his hands in talks but one which many lawmakers hope might make him focus on securing an agreement with Brussels.

The group of Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat lawmakers, called "MPs (members of parliament) for a deal", said it would try to rally support for an agreement based on one former leader Theresa May had worked on with the opposition Labour Party.

Caroline Flint, a Labour lawmaker who previously voted in favour of May's deal, said the group would use "the hours, the days, the weeks left" before the Brexit deadline of Oct. 31 to show the "sizeable voice" in parliament for a deal.

"We are all in support of getting a deal and leaving in an orderly way," she told a news conference, adding there were about 50 Labour lawmakers who wanted a deal. "We may not be as loud as some voices but we are a voice of reason here."

She said talks between May and Labour had been successful in fleshing out some common ground on Brexit and that the result of those contacts should form a basis for any deal Johnson secures.

Stephen Kinnock, another Labour lawmaker, described the group's job as showing Johnson "that the numbers are there" to get such a deal through parliament.

"Our job as MPs for a deal is to work relentlessly over the next few weeks, getting it out there to our colleagues and saying 'sign this bit of paper which says we will vote for a deal,'" he said.

But a spokesman for the prime minister said Johnson was working on making progress in areas which differed from some of the things May had talked about before she resigned

I bet May will regret not seeking support across parliament from 2016 onward.
 
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Do you think you will remain or will you leave?
 
I suspect May is just thankful she's now out of the spotlight

If that is true though, it shows that perhaps a bit more progress was made in talks with Labour when she belatedly decided to liaise with them than was reported at the time

It should come as no surprise to anyone that this was not reported by our ‘no deal’ media.
 
I suspect May is just thankful she's now out of the spotlight

If that is true though, it shows that perhaps a bit more progress was made in talks with Labour when she belatedly decided to liaise with them than was reported at the time

Labour’s leave deal isn’t/won’t be much different to her deal.
 
I'm guessing, but I would strongly suspect a Labour deal will have the whole of the UK in a customs union, removing the need for a backstop.

Bingo.

Corbyn has already given information on this.

A new Customs Union and close alignment to the Single Market, with gaining access.

NI issue solved.

The EU said they liked the sound of it when May was in charge.
 
I think it was reported that some progress was made but the whole thing just petered out rather quickly
I’m sure they could easily have reached agreement. There just wasn’t that much separating them. The talks failed because of political reasons, neither the tories nor Labour would have been able to sell any agreement to their backbenchers
 
Bingo.

Corbyn has already given information on this.

A new Customs Union and close alignment to the Single Market, with gaining access.

NI issue solved.

The EU said they liked the sound of it when May was in charge.
Ah but does that mean a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border? If it does, Gove would have to support it but the ERG would surely defy the whip - and get thrown out of the Tory party.
 
Bingo.

Corbyn has already given information on this.

A new Customs Union and close alignment to the Single Market, with gaining access.

NI issue solved.

The EU said they liked the sound of it when May was in charge.
Wasn’t the issue that Corbyn wanted a seat at the table during any trade talks involving the EU and other countries? Something which the EU just wouldn’t agree to.
 
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