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urban genie said:
Incitement isn't a crime it was abolished as a common law offence and replaced with Encouraging others to commit a crime, saying I think there should be riots doesn't fall under this law, as he has not himself performed the act or is sufficiently close to doing so, or persuading others to do so, for the law to find it appropriate to punish him
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On national TV, he said I think there should be riots. Yet he's not encouraging others to commit a crime, don't know about that one chief
 
hilts said:
I for one hope these brave souls make a success of their endeavours, if they cruelly fall on hard times there will always be a place at the bottom of my garden for them. Actually come to think of it Fuck off I’ve worked for 34 years to own a small garden.
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You bitter sod. Just because you worked 34 years for a small garden (I've been doing same for 37 years by the way for my 40 ft garden on the housing estate I live on), why on earth are you so resentful of others who managed to get a more highly paid job? A job which you could have got if you were clever enough, hard-working enough, tenacious enough or lucky enough.

Why are you not so bitter about Sergio Aguero, but you are bitter about fund managers? When were you last moaning about how much David Silva earns?

Serious question.

Are you also bitter about not being a company director on £300k a year? Do you hate them as well?
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
On national TV, he said I think there should be riots. Yet he's not encouraging others to commit a crime, don't know about that one chief
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When opinions become unlawfull then we are in a dangerous place.

He said I think their should be riots, that's an opinion.

If he has turned to the screen and said "Peiple rise up and take to the streets and burn the place down"

That would be classed as encouraging a crime


Now in 2017 farage said

"But if they don't deliver this Brexit that I spent 25 years of my life working for, then I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines."


That could be classed as encouraging a crime as he has explicily said he would take action.

But he was not prosecuted and it would have been silly to do so.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
On national TV, he said I think there should be riots. Yet he's not encouraging others to commit a crime, don't know about that one chief
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I posted the iPlayer link to this yesterday - if you watch the programme from 22:39 rather than a 35 second clip you see this very disturbng comment and the responses in its full context as provided by the extreme right/left totalitarian textbooks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0008rwl/politics-live-27092019
 
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urban genie said:
When opinions become unlawfull then we are in a dangerous place.

He said I think their should be riots, that's an opinion.

If he has turned to the screen and said "Peiple rise up and take to the streets and burn the place down"

That would be classed as encouraging a crime
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Extreme opinions broadcasted on national television are dangerous as it is. The country is starting to catch fire and idiots like this are pouring petrol on the flames
 
George Hannah said:
I posted the iPlayer link to this yeterday - if you watch the programme from 22:39 rather than a 35 second clip you see this very disturbng comment and the responses in its full context as provided by the extreme right/left totalitarian textbooks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0008rwl/politics-live-27092019
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Not good enough I'm afraid mate. I don't give a toss if you voted leave or remain, if you say there should be riots then you're a class A knob
 
blueinsa said:
It absolutely should be.

Calling for "insurrection" should also be a criminal offence.
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Are you serious on this particular one?

So you are saying, no matter what happens in this land no member of the populace shouldbe able.to say enough, we will not take it anymore?

There would be no social change of power for the people in any nation if such a totalitarian stance on peoples freedom was upheld, and us lefties get called stalinist in nature.


aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Not good enough I'm afraid mate. I don't give a toss if you voted leave or remain, if you say there should be riots then you're a class A knob
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People are allowed an opinion, this man edits spiked and is a crank, why the bbc even consider him a credible journalist is beyond me.

His comment is stupid, but he is still allowed to express it unfortunately and his comparrison with the french is wrong as they don't go out intending to riot.

But you original question is was his comment a crime and ultimately it isn't.

Whether it should be is for parliament to decide through acts and amendments.

I suppect recent turn of events may see law changes on language on this front.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
I'm not saying you said that, I'm talking about the idiot on BBC.
Even with context he is still an absolute tosser
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Ha! Well that's a relief - but Brendan O'Neill is being increasingly wheeled out by the main broadcasters. He actively promotes the complete polarization of debate without any real discussion of actual policy issues and differences - just the sort of utterly trivial soundbite headline exchanges you read in the press.
 
George Hannah said:
Ha! Well that's a relief - but Brendan O'Neill is being increasingly wheeled out by the main broadcasters. He actively promotes the complete polarization of debate without any real discussion of actual policy issues and differences - just the sort of utterly trivial soundbite headline exchanges you read in the press.
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The media has a role to play here and that is to stop giving fucking idiots a platform.

Stop chasing clicks and revenue and viewing numbers.
 
im trying to understand the potential financial cost of a no deal brexit. This is what I’ve come up with, am I right?

  • Uk GDP in 2018 was just over 2 trillion
  • We pay for EU membership 18 billion in 2018 ( I’m excluding rebates and the amount we get back from the EU)
  • KPMG forecast hit to GDP follow a no deal brexit is a reduction of 1.5%. Which equals a 30 billion hit to the economy
  • I think government forecasts to GDP are in the range of negative 3.5 to 6.5%. Which equals 70 billion to 130 billion hit to the economy
  • Bank of England forecast to GDP are negative 5.5% (revised down from 8%). Which equals 110 billion hit to the economy.
Are my maths correct?
 
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