They don’t all do. Some young people go on to do really well and earn lots of money and have happy lives.
Some old people have insecure low paid jobs when they should have retires and are wondering how to pay for themselves in old age,
We can all generalise bollox
Mine too.
If the Tories put together any kind of a 'deal' it will be another con job.
I don’t presently own any property due to my bankruptcy a few years ago totally destroying my credit rating, although I’m hopeful that will change in the next twelve months, which will mean me getting a new mortgage at 50, which also means I’ll need to work until I’m 70, most likely, so I’m well aware of the present difficulties in getting a mortgage as I’ve been/will be as much subject to the present set up as most; not that I’m complaining.
Nope - in fact I have just countered/answered in a reply to another poster
You are not living in the here and now of October 2019 - accordingly your suggestions are pure nonsense
There’s a decent chance you will be correct if your predictions prove you to be a ‘Cassandra’, and I’ve predicated all I have posted on this particar matter re: the old and young around leaving inflicting significant economic damage on the UK (along with the implied associated reduction in global influence) which I believe is a likely outcome in a no deal scenario, which is why it should be avoided at all costs.Hope you do not mind me replying
Personally I think that there will be a few months of doom-mongering and then a gradual petering out of the angst as the tsunami stubbornly refuses to arrive - and......
Things will generally return to as they are now...
The young will still depend on the parents and grandparents to fund their lives
The young will find some subject - probably climate change - to focus on and Brexit will be fuck all to them
A bit further down the line the young of today will become the otder of tomorrow and benefit directly from the strength of the UK - but, typically, they will not be expressing their gratitude to the older of today - even those still alive
Oh - and the doom-mongers of today (not you) absolutely will not be anywhere to be seen saying - sorry for all that bollocks I posted back in the day
OK, I've used the search facility to look up Dribble and Ifyoucouljust's references to Nazis. IYCJ has mentioned the word Nazi once in relation to a tweet about the Mail revealing a Remainer's address. Dribble's references are mostly calling Farage NaziNige and making comparisons to certain aspects of what happened in the 1930s. Haven't seen either of them call individual posters Nazis.Yet you say nothing when Dribble, Ifyoucouldjust... and the like regularly make Nazi references to describe all leave voters, behaviour and opinions, eh.
As I said; faux outrage. Or selective, you choose.
That other thread is now consigned to history, isn't it ;)OK, I've used the search facility to look up Dribble and Ifyoucouljust's references to Nazis. IYCJ has mentioned the word Nazi once in relation to a tweet about the Mail revealing a Remainer's address. Dribble's references are mostly calling Farage NaziNige and making comparisons to certain aspects of what happened in the 1930s. Haven't seen either of them call individual posters Nazis.
You emphasise well that there are in the main only 3 of us left - it shows how effective the pack have been.Quite ironic you using the word cavalry when yourself, blueinsa and metal biker are like the three brexiteers - all for one and one for all!
I did hear an argument from an independent over here saying the EU would be the ones putting pressure on us to put up a hard border and we would get the blame for doing so.All that discussion covered was '...….we want the full backstop - and we want it to not have any constraints such as by time...….'
Do you hear anything over there that would represent a proposal other than 'we want it all' - because the UK could not possibly sign-up to that (and I mean Parliament not May) as it would be shockingly bad for the UK's interests.
All UK citizens that have the UK's interests as a priority should be opposed to that arrangement.
Is there no argument over there that if Ireland insist on 100% of what they want and expect all the compromise to come from the UK then they are acting with intransigence?
Thanks; it’s been a long road back, but I can now get good credit again which feels quite liberating, even though (mortgage apart) I don’t really need it.All the best to you mate and hopefully you get it sorted, I am sure you will.
I also dont own my house, private renting after a horrendous first divorce that financially wiped me out as well as taking me off the housing ladder that i was on at the time.
Circumstances have meant i have never got back on and when we applied last year for a mortgage, even though we had the deposit the bank decided that it wouldn't lend so that was that.
We both have personal accounts with the bank and a business account with all the history that goes with yet the answer to a mortgage, not even a particularly big one was no!
The plan is now to plough our profits into just buying the gaff outright so fuck em.
Stop fucking whining. It's boring.You emphasise well that there are in the main only 3 of us left - it shows how effective the pack have been.
The rest have had the good sense to recognise that these threads will never be allowed by the pack to be a place where debate can occur.
The pack simply need to shout down any Leave opinions and are allowed to throw abuse the way of Leavers - whereas we need to be careful how we respond.
The recent tactic has been to provoke Leave posters and when they get goaded into responding in like fashion seek to get them banned
OK, I've used the search facility to look up Dribble and Ifyoucouljust's references to Nazis. IYCJ has mentioned the word Nazi once in relation to a tweet about the Mail revealing a Remainer's address. Dribble's references are mostly calling Farage NaziNige and making comparisons to certain aspects of what happened in the 1930s. Haven't seen either of them call individual posters Nazis.
Funny that, because i posted after reading 3 pages of you slagging off remainers.Hey - I just have to deal with no end of shit and abuse - because a good number of the Remainers on here just throw abuse to make up for their lack of substance - yet I generally remain calm and considered
You ought to try it
Can you make up an explanation of you deliberately taking the thread down a path of personal arguments this morning?Jumping in to complain about jumping in.
YCNMIU.
Can you make up an explanation of you deliberately taking the thread down a path of personal arguments this morning?
This is a football forum not a dissertation on the Old V young, of course I will be generalizing. Although, studies have been released that show this generation is the first that will go on to be worse of than the last
Did you actually post that while keeping a straight face?Can you make up an explanation of you deliberately taking the thread down a path of personal arguments this morning?
WiFi and the fact that nice tele’s are now affordable don’t make up for the difficulties of owning your own home.
This isn’t a brag, it’s the truth-
I’m in the top 10% of earners, the group Johnson wants to give a tax cut to. I have just moved into my new home as a first time buyer and myself and my Mrs saved as much as we could. No holiday anywhere last year, spent 12 months at her Mum’s in the spare room, waited to improve her car, which was much needed etc.
It’s safe to say I changed my life fairly significantly to get a deposit to buy.
Even doing so it took longer than expected, despite the fact I’m a high earner and my Mrs is a fully chartered accountant on a good salary too.
Now I did it after just over a year and moved into a 3 bed in a nice area but when I think of those earning the even national average, not those on minimum wage, the actual average for the country, I think it must be impossible if they don’t have family to help.
Affording an IPhone or WiFi, which you can get for very cheap these days doesn’t make up for the burden you have to now take on to save to buy a house, it’s so so hard.
I am posting in the reality of October 2019 - Johnson will get one chance to get this done and there is no benefit of working with the duplicitous other parties (I am not suggesting that he is anything but a proven liar)Ah so it’s just me you decline to answer.
Everything is leaked. Because it is leaked a narrative is created and attached to that leak. Also because it is leaked there will be some differences between various drafts and the final version thereby creating not only a narrative but sometimes a misleading one.
Some observations. It would make sense to publish the proposals and attach the narrative of the Govts own choosing. It would also make further sense to get the buy in of the people (Parliament) who will decide whether these proposals are acceptable. There is no point in sending proposals that will not be acceptable to our own side. Finally the EU will see these proposals at some point. Whether they see them today, last week or next week makes no material difference. To agree or reject them they have to see them in the first place.
May tried the secret game and it blew up in her face. It will blow up in Johnson’s face too. We will never be successful in our negotiations with the EU if our primary focus is trying to game our own side. The very fact we do this means we have lost before we have even got to Brussels.