Another new Brexit thread

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dave_blue12 said:
A sensible take on the situation

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Agree with every word of that and sums up my feelings at the time (and since) perfectly. I’ve never believed it was worth it and I haven’t been surprised at much of what’s gone on since. Ultimately though, that has now been and gone and the second question has to be answered before we can go revisit the first.
 
meltonblue said:
Agree with every word of that and sums up my feelings at the time (and since) perfectly. I’ve never believed it was worth it and I haven’t been surprised at much of what’s gone on since. Ultimately though, that has now been and gone and the second question has to be answered before we can go revisit the first.
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He calls for Parliament to do its duty which is to act in the best interests of the country.

This is exactly how I see it. Parliament should oust Johnson and revoke Art 50.

At a GE, whenever that might be, any party is free to run on exiting the EU. But BP aside I’m not sure that will happen. Sensible people have had enough however they voted in 2016 and such a platform may well be electoral suicide.
 
142 new posts since i last looked at this thread, can't be bothered reading all them but I preseume this has been posted

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50019069

Do we have a consensus as to whether there is anything of any importance in there or are we just still happy that a deal seems to be in the offing and the fine detail doesn't really matter and industry will just have to suck it up. Or is the deal not still on?
 
dave_blue12 said:
A sensible take on the situation

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But to the ardent Brexiteer these sort of facts and statistics have become fraudulent currency - they cannot listen and cannot believe they just want Brexit done even though they no longer know what personal benefit they will derive from it nor what it will look like - they just know in their heart of hearts it represents wooden dollars to them because anything is better than owning up to the truth. The good folk of Sunderland will get their control back - free themselves from immigrants ( less than 2% of the population of Wearside were born outside the UK yet on vox pops your average middle aged Mackem talks like the place is 90% immigrant occupied ) - and in the process lose tens of thousands of jobs at Nissan and in the supply chain. Well paid jobs too.

When the TV documentary makers revisit the desolated pit villages this time I shall have no sympathy for them because this time instead of having it thrust upon them they will have brought disaster upon themselves. Good luck to them voting UKIP or BXP rather than Labour at the next election - I doubt any of them even know what the economic and industrial policies of either party would be - they will just be happy to thumb their noses in the face of main stream politicians.
 
bluethrunthru said:
But to the ardent Brexiteer these sort of facts and statistics have become fraudulent currency - they cannot listen and cannot believe they just want Brexit done even though they no longer know what personal benefit they will derive from it nor what it will look like - they just know in their heart of hearts it represents wooden dollars to them because anything is better than owning up to the truth. The good folk of Sunderland will get their control back - free themselves from immigrants ( less than 2% of the population of Wearside were born outside the UK yet on vox pops your average middle aged Mackem talks like the place is 90% immigrant occupied ) - and in the process lose tens of thousands of jobs at Nissan and in the supply chain. Well paid jobs too.

When the TV documentary makers revisit the desolated pit villages this time I shall have no sympathy for them because this time instead of having it thrust upon them they will have brought disaster upon themselves. Good luck to them voting UKIP or BXP rather than Labour at the next election - I doubt any of them even know what the economic and industrial policies of either party would be - they will just be happy to thumb their noses in the face of main stream politicians.
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Unfortunately, it is all of us who will suffer (some already have) and in particular the future generations that had no say in the matter.
 
This is all gearing up for a “we are
Making progress, can we have yet another delay please”

Buckle in if you have blue chip shares or global equity funds if the pound continues to recover.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
This is all gearing up for a “we are
Making progress, can we have yet another delay please”

Buckle in if you have blue chip shares or global equity funds if the pound continues to recover.
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It sounded like progress this morning. Doubts seem to have set in and that's before any actual text is published. Regulatory alignment wasn't mentioned this morning.

If the idea was to cobble an all things to all men solution to NI and "get Brexit done" but leave any detail to later that might work. As the detail leaks out, that looks less likely.

Quo vadis?
 
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