I'm no expert on politics but according to Ladbrokes who obviously do employ savvy analysts the odds on a Labour Coalition made up of them plus either/and the LD and SNP is 33/1.Not sure it is, if the tories don’t have an overall majority then unless they are close enough to get a majority with DUP support it will be impossible to form a government and Labour plus Liberal / SNP would be more likely. Think the tories would need to win a majority or be within 10 seats of one to govern. Especially if we have a deal and Farage goes after them.
So even if we get a withdrawal agreement by 31st and move to transition the new deal could look very different depending on who’s negotiating it.
Nope - that lazy fiction was not a counter to my post - so I say the same to you
BJ is more appropriate, leaves a nasty taste in the mouth (so I’m told).I didn’t say it must be questioned, although I do find it a bit weird that anyone would choose to call him by an affectionate nickname instead of his actual name. Each to their own though.
These are the sorts of facts that the one-eyed prefer to avoid - taking lazy refuge is more convenient.You are entirely correct once more ;)
I am deeply impressed by your sustained and polite efforts to educate the one-eyed on here and to defend the blatantly obvious facts which they seek to deny. BM is not alone though, just watched Jezzer's annointed successor Rebecca Long Bailey on Marr. She's explained how the Labour Party will oppose any deal ageed by the EU and put it to a second referendum when they win the GE, or possibly before it by preventing a GE for 6 months+ by installing a coalition of losers.
Following that was Ms Sturgeon telling us that a country with the largest deficit in the world would rejoin the EU post Brexit after a resounding independence victory -
"Which country in the developed world has the biggest budget shortfall? A black hole in the public finances larger than the likes of Italy and the rest of southern Europe, bigger than the US under spendthrift Donald Trump and double that of debt-ridden Japan.That dubious honour would go to Scotland if it were an independent country. Its £13bn shortfall is equivalent to more than half the UK’s total notional fiscal deficit despite having less than a tenth of the population, it was revealed this week."
Fair point, however I wonder if they base those odds on the polling, I can see why looking at polling you expect a narrow tory win. I just think this election is different and more unpredictable, throw in a BP fighting conservatives, some of the expelled tories standing as independents seats can be won and lost that bear no relation to polling. Added to that the tories are almost certain to lose a good chunk if not all their 13 Scottish seats so are already playing catch up.I'm no expert on politics but according to Ladbrokes who obviously do employ savvy analysts the odds on a Labour Coalition made up of them plus either/and the LD and SNP is 33/1.
Bookmakers do make the wrong call now and again but those odds convince me more than your opinion, not belittling your POV, just using head over heart analysis.
****?I didn’t say it must be questioned, although I do find it a bit weird that anyone would choose to call him by an affectionate nickname instead of his actual name. Each to their own though.
Its creepyI didn’t say it must be questioned, although I do find it a bit weird that anyone would choose to call him by an affectionate nickname instead of his actual name. Each to their own though.
Fair point, however I wonder if they base those odds on the polling, I can see why looking at polling you expect a narrow tory win. I just think this election is different and more unpredictable, throw in a BP fighting conservatives, some of the expelled tories standing as independents seats can be won and lost that bear no relation to polling. Added to that the tories are almost certain to lose a good chunk if not all their 13 Scottish seats so are already playing catch up.
It's pretty creepy thinking its an affectionate nickname tbh.Its creepy
People wanking themselves into a frenzy about the latest opinion polls are being subject to misdirection imo, assuming matters are still as unresolved as now at the time of the GE.Fair point, however I wonder if they base those odds on the polling, I can see why looking at polling you expect a narrow tory win. I just think this election is different and more unpredictable, throw in a BP fighting conservatives, some of the expelled tories standing as independents seats can be won and lost that bear no relation to polling. Added to that the tories are almost certain to lose a good chunk if not all their 13 Scottish seats so are already playing catch up.
Do you regard Ric as an affectionate nickname? Bojo links to Bozo btw.I didn’t say it must be questioned, although I do find it a bit weird that anyone would choose to call him by an affectionate nickname instead of his actual name. Each to their own though.
It’s all about opinions and hope from whichever side of the political debate you are on.Fair point, however I wonder if they base those odds on the polling, I can see why looking at polling you expect a narrow tory win. I just think this election is different and more unpredictable, throw in a BP fighting conservatives, some of the expelled tories standing as independents seats can be won and lost that bear no relation to polling. Added to that the tories are almost certain to lose a good chunk if not all their 13 Scottish seats so are already playing catch up.
Following that was Ms Sturgeon telling us that a country with the largest deficit in the world would rejoin the EU post Brexit after a resounding independence victory -
"Which country in the developed world has the biggest budget shortfall? A black hole in the public finances larger than the likes of Italy and the rest of southern Europe, bigger than the US under spendthrift Donald Trump and double that of debt-ridden Japan.That dubious honour would go to Scotland if it were an independent country. Its £13bn shortfall is equivalent to more than half the UK’s total notional fiscal deficit despite having less than a tenth of the population, it was revealed this week."
It has an avuncular tenor to it.It's pretty creepy thinking its an affectionate nickname tbh.
blue is the colour etc but if you can be bothered to follow the link you'll see it's from the annual Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) which showed total public spending in Scotland was £75.3 billion in 2018/19 but the country only raised £62.7 billion in revenues. The 2018/19 report showed the £12.6 billion deficit was the equivalent of more than half the £23.5 billion recorded for the entire UK, despite Scotland having only 8.3 per cent of the population.Revealed by who?
I have no affiliation to any Political party anymore but I can tell you from conversations with family, friends and people involved in my work, from a large spectrum of backgrounds with very different levels of income and lifestyles that Johnson is far more popular than Corbyn.Scotland will be a Tory wasteland again and in the SW where Tories captilised on LibDem woes a revitalised LibDem party spells trouble. Lose seats in these two areas I don’t see where they can make the necessary gains.
As you say it’s an unpredictable picture and I wouldn’t like to make a call on how it pans out.
Given your affection for portmanteau words I'm surprised you don't like it.It has an avuncular tenor to it.
Throw that £13billion in, then add the close to £2 grand per head bung from the Barnett formula, and the EU should welcome them with open arms.You are entirely correct once more ;)
I am deeply impressed by your sustained and polite efforts to educate the one-eyed on here and to defend the blatantly obvious facts which they seek to deny. BM is not alone though, just watched Jezzer's annointed successor Rebecca Long Bailey on Marr. She's explained how the Labour Party will oppose any deal ageed by the EU and put it to a second referendum when they win the GE, or possibly before it by preventing a GE for 6 months+ by installing a coalition of losers.
Following that was Ms Sturgeon telling us that a country with the largest deficit in the world would rejoin the EU post Brexit after a resounding independence victory -
"Which country in the developed world has the biggest budget shortfall? A black hole in the public finances larger than the likes of Italy and the rest of southern Europe, bigger than the US under spendthrift Donald Trump and double that of debt-ridden Japan.That dubious honour would go to Scotland if it were an independent country. Its £13bn shortfall is equivalent to more than half the UK’s total notional fiscal deficit despite having less than a tenth of the population, it was revealed this week."
You’ve made a good “case” for the defence there.Given your affection for portmanteau words I'm surprised you don't like it.
I have no affiliation to any Political party anymore but I can tell you from conversations with family, friends and people involved in my work, from a large spectrum of backgrounds with very different levels of income and lifestyles that Johnson is far more popular than Corbyn.