Another new Brexit thread

[Metal Biker]

I didn’t say it must be questioned, although I do find it a bit weird that anyone would choose to call him by an affectionate nickname instead of his actual name. Each to their own though.

You mean like "Jezza"?

I wouldn't call "BoJo" affectionate, myself but hey-ho.

 

[hammocity]

Polling will tell you that.

But in Scotland is Johnson more popular than Sturgeon or in the SW is Johnson more popular than Swinson or in the most leave districts is Johnson more popular than Farage or in Remain districts more popular than Swinson or Corbyn?

And by all accounts Johnson and Varadkar really, really want a deal and Johnson has ditched no deal as a viable option. How does a deal play with Leave constituencies? How does even talking about a deal play given Brexit is now defined as no deal and any deal is defined as betrayal? How does it play in Remain constituencies and those who just want to bin Brexit? Is Johnson to be condemned as both enabler and betrayer?

Don’t shoot the messenger Bob

 

[Metal Biker]

Its creepy

Like "Jezza"?

 

[BobKowalski]

Throw that £13billion in, then add the close to £2 grand per head bung from the Barnett formula, and the EU should welcome them with open arms.

They would. Politically it isolates England and in terms of the EU project taking in poorer countries and building them up economically is pretty much the point of the EU.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Given your affection for portmanteau words I'm surprised you don't like it.

I prefer ‘****’.

 

[mat]

May: I have a deal.

Tories: It's Shit. Resign!

(Months Later)

Boris: I have a deal.

Tories: It's Shit. Same one as May had with a little bit of glitter on it.

Boris: There's a significant difference. I'm pushing for this personally.

Tories: You resigned over the same deal under May.

Boris: But I'm Boris!

Tories: We will back the bill. Huzzah Boris!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

So, Labour policy is, if Bozza (love that), gets a deal, and this deal is acceptable to the EU, Ulster and Ireland, they want another referendum?
In their now frantic desperation, they must now be aching for a no deal to come up with that one.
If they think that will put Corbyn in number 10, my cock's a kipper ;)

 

[hammocity]

I prefer ‘****’.

Uncunt to his nephews and nieces.

 

[BobKowalski]

You mean like "Jezza"?

I wouldn't call "BoJo" affectionate, myself but hey-ho.

Corbyn and Johnson is fine. May was fine. Cameron was fine. Dave was not.

Labour supporters can call him Jezza and Tory supporters can call him Bojo. At least we then know a posters political affiliations by the name they use.

 

[Metal Biker]

Corbyn and Johnson is fine. May was fine. Cameron was fine. Dave was not.

Labour supporters can call him Jezza and Tory supporters can call him Bojo. At least we then know a posters political affiliations by the name they use.

So non affiliated, floating voters are forbidden from using such names, lest they be lumped into a particular "group".

Gotcha. This is, what the 10th message regarding someone using the term BoJo, now? BM has a language police I wasn't aware of? Seriously, why should it matter if someone uses the term BoJo or Jezza or Dave?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

They would. Politically it isolates England and in terms of the EU project taking in poorer countries and building them up economically is pretty much the point of the EU.

Politically, and financially, it certainly does benefit England, we won't be in the EU, so that isolation will be coped with. All of a sudden, there's this fretting about the Scots, the SNP won't be in our parliament and not may tears will be shed about that.
But, if Germany want another on the teat, fair enough, who are we to argue.

 

[BobKowalski]

So non affiliated, floating voters are forbidden from using such names, lest they be lumped into a particular "group".

Gotcha. This is, what the 10th message regarding someone using the term BoJo, now? BM has a language police I wasn't aware of? Seriously, why should it matter if someone uses the term BoJo or Jezza or Dave?

You can use whatever name you like. What name you use just tells us something about you, the user. I sometimes use the term ‘sex pest’ for Johnson. Can we infer from that I am not a supporter of Johnson? Too fucking right you can.

 

[George Hannah]

Corbyn and Johnson is fine. May was fine. Cameron was fine. Dave was not. Labour supporters can call him Jezza and Tory supporters can call him Bojo. At least we then know a posters political affiliations by the name they use.

You know them by their eyes though...

 

[George Hannah]

I prefer ‘****’.

Of course you do

 

[Metal Biker]

You can use whatever name you like. What name you use just tells us something about you, the user. I sometimes use the term ‘sex pest’ for Johnson. Can we infer from that I am not a supporter of Johnson? Too fucking right you can.

Maybe to people who like to sort everyone else into little groups.

I've called him Jezza in the past, and I can't stand Jezza. See how your logic breaks down there? Whatever term I use tells you nothing about what aligience I have. Jesus, is this really how you base public support for political figures? XD

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Personally I think until we see actual legal text impossible to guage on what side, for or against, everyone falls.

Common sense at last

 

[BobKowalski]

Politically, and financially, it certainly does benefit England, we won't be in the EU, so that isolation will be coped with. All of a sudden, there's this fretting about the Scots, the SNP won't be in our parliament and not may tears will be shed about that.

No one is fretting. You asked a question and I answered. Why do you think as a Union we support Scotland, Wales and NI? Because we deem the benefits outweigh the cost. We are seen as stronger as a Union than apart. It allows businesses and people to thrive within the union irrespective of where they come from. We benefit from ideas, innovations of the different people and so on.

Now we just obsess over the financial cost. They get support, why are we sending money to Scotland, the EU or wherever. It’s all part of a blinkered, narrow mindset that sees the cost of everything and the value of nothing. It’s short term and foolish. It’s Treaty of Versallies thinking over Marshall Plan.

 

[Coatigan]

Actually a bit surprised you did not at least attempt to deal with the scenario

I will not ask you to explain why what I say is incorrect - because you plainly cannot

That does not matter - at the heart of what I am pointing out is that those that bang the drum the Brexit will drive the break in the UK are, other than emotion towards independence going up, ignoring reality and facts

Inconvenient truths make people look the other way - you prove my point for me

I know, right!

Must be because you are such an amazing negotiator!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

No one is fretting. You asked a question and I answered. Why do you think as a Union we support Scotland, Wales and NI? Because we deem the benefits outweigh the cost. We are seen as stronger as a Union than apart. It allows businesses and people to thrive within the union irrespective of where they come from. We benefit from ideas, innovations of the different people and so on.

Now we just obsess over the financial cost. They get support, why are we sending money to Scotland, the EU or wherever. It’s all part of a blinkered, narrow mindset that sees the cost of everything and the value of nothing. It’s short term and foolish. It’s Treaty of Versallies thinking over Marshall Plan.

Believe it or not, I am in full agreement with you, but when we have Scots nationalists in our parliament, voting on laws that affect the English, and forever agitating for separation, then this union becomes a bind.
They voted to stay, I was pleased, most were, but this group, who, by all accounts now have the support of their nation, just won't accept that.

 

[George Hannah]

Tunnel negotiations are on baby. Dublin ok then Brussels ok (ish).