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Why they use the fisheries as validation I still don't get.

A deal or no deal won't mean more fishing rights or better catches.
 
blueinsa said:
You fail to grasp my issue.

My issue is with their behaviour in Westminster and the rhetoric constantly used.

They are not like that in the Scottish parliament but feel the need to act up constantly in Westminster where they are a party of "no" rather than offering anything constructive to our democracy as a whole.

If they want to constantly play the victims card they can cope with the flak that will come with it.

Again and for clarity because you never read or accept this point, majority of Scots are never like that or speak like that, hence me saying the dont represent them when talking like that.
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Could you perhaps give specific examples of such behavior and rhetoric? Genuinely interested in how perceptions are shaped.

I know that the SNP MPs have been praised for their attendance record and participation in debates, much to the shame of other parties, and which one might think adds positively to the democratic process, but evidently not for your good self.
 
bellbuzzer said:
I think the HOC will be diminished when Bercow calls time. The tory media have waged a ruthless spiteful campaign against him and his family, which makes him a f'kin hero in my view. He is no socialist, but neither is he a sock puppet for thatcherites and the
Respect
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He is a remainer. So he needs brexited, out of a job, ideally out of existence. Nobody should dare stand in the way of brexit, even if that is by doing the right and established thing. That's the type of society we have become. That is the true legacy of brexit.
 
Are the tories, kicked out tories and independants that are ex tories now having cross bench spats between them

Fuck sake grow up
 
blueinsa said:
You fail to grasp my issue.

My issue is with their behaviour in Westminster and the rhetoric constantly used.

They are not like that in the Scottish parliament but feel the need to act up constantly in Westminster where they are a party of "no" rather than offering anything constructive to our democracy as a whole.

If they want to constantly play the victims card they can cope with the flak that will come with it.

Again and for clarity because you never read or accept this point, majority of Scots are never like that or speak like that, hence me saying the dont represent them when talking like that.
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One of the rare fair things you have said lately. fair enough.
 
blueinsa said:
You fail to grasp my issue.

My issue is with their behaviour in Westminster and the rhetoric constantly used.

They are not like that in the Scottish parliament but feel the need to act up constantly in Westminster where they are a party of "no" rather than offering anything constructive to our democracy as a whole.

If they want to constantly play the victims card they can cope with the flak that will come with it.

Again and for clarity because you never read or accept this point, majority of Scots are never like that or speak like that, hence me saying the dont represent them when talking like that.
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Ok, so just Westminster? My view for the most part is they have conducted themselves pretty well, particularly Blackford and Cherry ( who was instrumental in getting the illegal progration of parliament overturned). They are there to represent Scotland’s interests and those of their constituents who all voted to remain. How the hell do you expect them to behave?

It’s a weird argument though saying that the SNP mp’s don’t speak for ordinary people in Scotland. They do. They were voted in by the people of Scotland to do just that. Maybe they keep quiet in your company knowing your tendency to rant a little about that subject ;-)

Having lived in Scotland for most of my life, it’s difficult for me to judge wether ‘the majority of people up here are brilliant’. They seem to be, for the most part, like other areas of the U.K. all sorts, all types, ranging from saintly to psycho. I would say that indy ref 1 did politicise a very high proportion of Scots and that has carried through into Brexit. I have a number of SNP friends and they do tend to bang on a bit in a very nat way. However, I can bore for The UK on the toxicity of the Scottish Salmon Farming industry which is and has been aided for years by a string of sycophants (thanks @mcfc1632 ) within the Scottish Parliament and that usually works in shutting them down.
 
urban genie said:
Why they use the fisheries as validation I still don't get.

A deal or no deal won't mean more fishing rights or better catches.
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it won't. what it Will mean is far harder to sell what is caught to the biggest market for it.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Ok, so just Westminster? My view for the most part is they have conducted themselves pretty well, particularly Blackford and Cherry ( who was instrumental in getting the illegal progration of parliament overturned). They are there to represent Scotland’s interests and those of their constituents who all voted to remain. How the hell do you expect them to behave?

It’s a weird argument though saying that the SNP mp’s don’t speak for ordinary people in Scotland. They do. They were voted in by the people of Scotland to do just that. Maybe they keep quiet in your company knowing your tendency to rant a little about that subject ;-)

Having lived in Scotland for most of my life, it’s difficult for me to judge wether ‘the majority of people up here are brilliant’. They seem to be, for the most part, like other areas of the U.K. all sorts, all types, ranging from saintly to psycho. I would say that indy ref 1 did politicise a very high proportion of Scots and that has carried through into Brexit. I have a number of SNP friends and they do tend to bang on a bit in a very nat way. However, I can bore for The UK on the toxicity of the Scottish Salmon Farming industry which is and has been aided for years by a string of sycophants (thanks @mcfc1632 ) within the Scottish Parliament and that usually works in shutting them down.
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A field of bursting bagpipes would emit a more reasoned cacophony than that one-eyed, jeering, charlie-snorting, bunch of misfits.
 
Found it..


https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201920/cmagenda/OP191019.pdf

Saturday 19 October 2019 Order Paper No.4: Part 1

SUMMARY AGENDA: CHAMBER

9.30am Prayers

Afterwards:

Statement by the Prime Minister; other Ministerial Statements (if any)

Until any hour: Section 1(1)(a) of the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019 and Section 13(1)(b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 (Motion)

Until any hour: Section 1(2)(a) of the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019 (Motion)



Also, from The Grauniad...


Catchphrase bingo
A drink is not compulsory each time you hear these, but it might not be a bad idea:

• “Customs border in the Irish Sea”

• “Get Brexit done”

• “The will of the people”

• “17.4 million people”

• “No more dither and delay”

• “A reckless Tory Brexit”

• “No-deal cliff edge”

• “Chlorinated chicken”

• “No one voted to be poorer”

• “Race to the bottom”
 
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