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Anyone seen the ditch?

Don't give him the election ffs,get no deal a mile away from the table and don't let him have it whilst the students aren't at uni
 
It's Brexit day isn't it on Thursday guys and gals?
NO IFS NO BUTS ( no I don't mean immigration below 100k this time it's different).
So let's party on down dudes like it's 1999 ( City vs Gillingham, City are back).
 
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Sorry mate, I know you and I agree about many things but you're way off the mark here.

How on earth do you propose that the UK tells Merck, Sanofi, pfizer, Roche, Bayer, BSM, Santen, Shire (Takeda), CSL Behring and every other pharma I can think of, what to do? What areas of research to do, what drug development to pursue, what prices to set.

Honestly, I sense your frustration, but it's a ludicrous suggestion. They are free, independent companies with HQ's which are not in the UK. They will focus their efforts where the profits are, and they spend billions in bringing new drugs to market. If the return is not there, they will simply not bother with that line of products and will focus on some alternative. (This is a critical problem with the development of new antibiotics, by the way.)

The UK is in a very fortunate position that we have a near-monopolistic buyer of drugs - the NHS. The NHS volumes compared to Spire and Bupa etc are enormous, which means the NHS gets to call the shots with the pharma businesses and to a much greater extent than in other countries, define it's own buying terms. Big pharma then has to decide does it comply, or miss out on effectively all UK volume if NICE does not approve use.

The upshot is we are best in class at negotiating supply contracts with the pharma businesses. It's not a perfect scenario by any means, but without a global initiative to nationalise all pharma companies - which is never happening, obviously - then I don't know what more can be done.
Sounds like a strong argument for big pharma to break up the NHS...
 
Oh shit, the28 on my watch looks like 29.
So party delayed.
On Thursday we're gonna party like it's 1999 ( Horlock 90, Dickov 90, the Phoenix rises from the flames).
Interesting that you bring that match up to draw a comparison - it works in more ways than one

If you go back only 4-6 months - Remainers must have been as full of confidence as those Gillingham fans after 88mins

I was one of those that stayed to the end and kept the belief then as well
 
If it does, there will be a huge group of people who can’t afford drugs and a very small group of people who can. Still, they can’t say they weren’t warned......
Ironic when a large percentage of leave voters, the older ones anyway, are the biggest consumers of these drugs i’d Imagine

Hindsight is a wonderful thing... if they knew then what they know now they’d vote differently I expect (hope)
 
So when i fly to Montenegro next april the minute we fly outside the EU airspace the bloody thing will plummet into the sea? Easy jet never mentioned that when having 22 quid off me. Twats.
I think you'll find you ticked the box that says "We may need to change our scheduled flight times or cancel, divert or delay certain flights for safety, operational or other reasons". April should be OK as the EU is allowing 9 months after leaving for UK carriers to get an EASA certificate, plus Easyjet have transferred a lot of planes to Austrian registrations.
 
Another 3 Billion handed over to the EU now for this delay. Plus billions for the previous delay.
Truly sickening how the opposition have the galle to criticise the government for austerity when tax payers money is being wasted on staying in an organisation we voted to leave nearly 4 years ago.
The whole parliament system is broken beyond repair.
 
I don't know how the Mail has the gall to run such a story! When these issues are as a direct consequence of the anti-EU bile they have poured out for the past decade.
Should they have buried the story?

I think they missed this week's news that lack of EU workers in meat production means a likely shortage of pigs in blankets for Christmas. That crisis though would not be obvious till after a December election.

Yes it would be. How do you propose they do that?
Ask a Tory government?
 
Another 3 Billion handed over to the EU now for this delay. Plus billions for the previous delay.
Truly sickening how the opposition have the galle to criticise the government for austerity when tax payers money is being wasted on staying in an organisation we voted to leave nearly 4 years ago.
The whole parliament system is broken beyond repair.

Nope - comes off the £39bn divorce settlement it seems

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49563957
 
Another 3 Billion handed over to the EU now for this delay. Plus billions for the previous delay.
Truly sickening how the opposition have the galle to criticise the government for austerity when tax payers money is being wasted on staying in an organisation we voted to leave nearly 4 years ago.
The whole parliament system is broken beyond repair.



What we pay out to leave the EU will be a drop in the ocean compared to what we pay extra to American drug companies year on year.
 
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