Job offer - advice

[xgorton]

Tory coonts got rid of all workers rights,no chance.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Absolutely not. You would never do that in an interview. You would be damaging your chances of being successful. Any expert on interview techniques etc would tell you that. If they asked you directly in the interview that’s different but colleagues I work with who interview on a regular basis have told me they’re not allowed to ask that

The crux of the issue is that the advert said part and full time roles and now they’re saying they can’t accommodate part time

She’s spoken to third party HR people this afternoon who have told her she’s got a very strong argument and it’s very likely they’ll have to back down and offer her the part time role that she thought she was going for

So they're not offering any PT roles at all now?

I'm very surprised that there's a case based on what was advertised and what was eventually offered. If there is then can I go back and claim compensation for time wasted on the interviews I've had down the years ;)

That said the strange thing is how, if there are multiple roles, they can't accommodate someone on PT hours. Especially if that person is an existing employee (temp or not) and proven to be reliable and capable. However, the problem with challenging the decision is that what is the eventual outcome? If she's in a temp position at the moment isn't she vulnerable to not being renewed should she lose the challenge? If she wins, will they make it easy for her? I'm not seeing a positive result here.

Although ...

https://www.xperthr.co.uk/faq/where...that-they-would-like-to-work-part-time/61819/

However, THAT suggests she maybe should have asked at the interview for part time hours. I think the HR advice you got was from an interviewer angle (they're not allowed or not advised to ask, maybe) but an interviewee would be advised to.

I'm sure glad I don't work in HR, sounds like a nightmare these days.

EDIT: By the way, any indication in a covering letter or a tick box on the application form that she is applying for the PT position would cover that in my view - doesn't just need to be in the interview.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Absolutely not. You would never do that in an interview. You would be damaging your chances of being successful. Any expert on interview techniques etc would tell you that. If they asked you directly in the interview that’s different but colleagues I work with who interview on a regular basis have told me they’re not allowed to ask that

The crux of the issue is that the advert said part and full time roles and now they’re saying they can’t accommodate part time

She’s spoken to third party HR people this afternoon who have told her she’s got a very strong argument and it’s very likely they’ll have to back down and offer her the part time role that she thought she was going for

I always asked about hours at interviews. Also ask about holidays, salary, overtime, pension etc. Never did me any harm. Any interview is a two way process. You are interviewing the company to see what they can offer you. Otherwise what's the point?

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

I always asked about hours at interviews. Also ask about holidays, salary, overtime, pension etc. Never did me any harm. Any interview is a two way process. You are interviewing the company to see what they can offer you. Otherwise what's the point?

Usually at the end of the interview I ask if there's another stage to the interview process. If there is, then I recommend leaving all that to the second or later interviews. If not, then I agree, there's no problem in saying "I understand the salary is £500k a week" - I'm Alexis Sanchez by the way - "Is that correct?" Perhaps don't say "How much will I get?" as your first question!

Rules are slightly different if going via an agency, though. Let them do the asking.

 

[SWP's back]

They don't have to offer her fuck all mate, sorry.

She has been offered a role and it's up to her to accept it or not.

Christ the entitlement these days is off the scale.

What next? You going to sue them?

Very much this. What’s the world coming to?

 

[sir baconface]

By the way, OP, she is entitled to apply for part-time working in her current post which, I think, you said is in the same company. They aren’t obliged to grant the request but are expected to seriously consider it.

 

[Saddleworth2]

It was clear in the job advert. Hours weren’t discussed at the interview

then although it was sloppy practice from the company involved in terms of matching candidates against specific roles, she really has no grounds for complaint.

 

[Bill]

Tell her to start her own business, with hours to suit.
Start a butty round near factories, clean for old dears, take in ironing and so on.

 

[sir baconface]

Tell her to start her own business, with hours to suit.
Start a butty round near factories, clean for old dears, take in ironing and so on.

Then, as the business grows, she can take on people who don’t want to serve butties at meal times because it’s a bit inconvenient.