General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
"In a column in The Spectator in 1995, the Prime Minister said "blue collar" men in Britain were probably "drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless, and perhaps claiming to suffer from low self-esteem"

The comments were made in a rant in The Spectator magazine in 1995 about the number of single mums in Britain.

Are you referring to the date? If so he was 31. That’s old enough to have morals/respect. His recent comments about gay people, black people and Muslim women don’t show much improvement in that either.
 
The future Prime Minister. A fucking disgrace but we all know what he's about, no surprise there, its the Opposition I am most disappointed with

 
He is undoubtedly right but exposing the Tories' privatizing ways is hardly new and in any case the NHS 'revelations' transparently don't prove anything - it's an obvious stunt succeeding only in further reducing their credibility in the eyes of the majority of the electorate (if that's even possible.) The problem with the current extremist Labour leadership is that actually gaining power and improving our public services etc is wholly secondary. For Corbyn, McDonnell, McCluskey, Milne etc etc the joys of waging their antiquated war on the evil rich and powerful class comes first, definitely not the well being and prosperity of our country. We are just a sacrificial weapon in the historic Marxist assault on the international capitalist system and spreading their visceral hatred of the USA.

They seem happy to continue to oppose rather than compromise, get in and make the changes they can. Something I thought about and asked a Corbyn fan 4 and a half years ago. Shame, really
 
Are you referring to the date? If so he was 31. That’s old enough to have morals/respect. His recent comments about gay people, black people and Muslim women don’t show much improvement in that either.
For context. The comments were made 24 years ago. They may not be comments he still holds to be true, or they might be, but an article from 24 years ago tells us nothing.

The same argument could be aimed at Corbyn and the comments he made in the 70's. I thought we were moving away from he said/she said debates and were debating policies.
 
Are you referring to the date? If so he was 31. That’s old enough to have morals/respect. His recent comments about gay people, black people and Muslim women don’t show much improvement in that either.

Suggest you vote Labour mate. They need every vote they can get.
 
Does everyone know about stuff like this:

Jeremy Corbyn has defended taking £20,000 from an Iranian state-run TV channel which was banned from broadcasting in the UK.

Press TV paid the Labour leader thousands of pounds for just a handful of appearances – but Mr Corbyn said the sum ‘wasn’t an enormous amount’.

He claimed that he used his Press TV role to address ‘human rights issues’ and challenge the repressive regime in Tehran.

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Jeremy Corbyn during one of his appearances on the Iranian channel Press TV

But no evidence of this has been found. Instead, most of his appearances focus on his anti-West, anti-Israel views.

One Labour MP criticised the party leader’s links to Press TV, and said he should donate all the money to a Jewish charity.

In 2011 Mr Corbyn took part in a round-table discussion on the channel with journalist Yvonne Ridley, lamenting the killing of Osama bin Laden.

He attacked the lack of a trial for the 9/11 mastermind and said Barack Obama had become another ‘Pentagon president like the rest of them’. He told the programme: ‘This was an assassination attempt and is yet another tragedy upon a tragedy.’


Mr Corbyn also suggested that there was something ‘fishy’ because Bin Laden had been buried at sea, and said he could have been killed years earlier.

But he did not raise any objection when a contributor called the BBC ‘Zionist liars’ and described Israel as a ‘disease’. Press TV was taken off air in the UK in 2012 and restricted to the internet after broadcasting an interview with Maziar Bahari, an imprisoned journalist, which was conducted under duress.

Mr Corbyn told PinkNews his £20,000 fee for four appearances between 2009 and 2012 ‘wasn’t an enormous amount, actually’.
 
Does everyone know about stuff like this:

Jeremy Corbyn has defended taking £20,000 from an Iranian state-run TV channel which was banned from broadcasting in the UK.

Press TV paid the Labour leader thousands of pounds for just a handful of appearances – but Mr Corbyn said the sum ‘wasn’t an enormous amount’.

He claimed that he used his Press TV role to address ‘human rights issues’ and challenge the repressive regime in Tehran.

37D462ED00000578-0-image-a-57_1472858485677.jpg


Jeremy Corbyn during one of his appearances on the Iranian channel Press TV

But no evidence of this has been found. Instead, most of his appearances focus on his anti-West, anti-Israel views.

One Labour MP criticised the party leader’s links to Press TV, and said he should donate all the money to a Jewish charity.

In 2011 Mr Corbyn took part in a round-table discussion on the channel with journalist Yvonne Ridley, lamenting the killing of Osama bin Laden.

He attacked the lack of a trial for the 9/11 mastermind and said Barack Obama had become another ‘Pentagon president like the rest of them’. He told the programme: ‘This was an assassination attempt and is yet another tragedy upon a tragedy.’


Mr Corbyn also suggested that there was something ‘fishy’ because Bin Laden had been buried at sea, and said he could have been killed years earlier.

But he did not raise any objection when a contributor called the BBC ‘Zionist liars’ and described Israel as a ‘disease’. Press TV was taken off air in the UK in 2012 and restricted to the internet after broadcasting an interview with Maziar Bahari, an imprisoned journalist, which was conducted under duress.

Mr Corbyn told PinkNews his £20,000 fee for four appearances between 2009 and 2012 ‘wasn’t an enormous amount, actually’.
40 kids dead on a Yemen bus.
 
Tory boys you're stinking the joint out with your hatred of Corbyn.
Why don't you book a conference room at a hotel, put up a picture of Jezz and have your mutual mass debate there instead of polluting this place.
 
Does everyone know about stuff like this:

Jeremy Corbyn has defended taking £20,000 from an Iranian state-run TV channel which was banned from broadcasting in the UK.

Press TV paid the Labour leader thousands of pounds for just a handful of appearances – but Mr Corbyn said the sum ‘wasn’t an enormous amount’.

He claimed that he used his Press TV role to address ‘human rights issues’ and challenge the repressive regime in Tehran.

37D462ED00000578-0-image-a-57_1472858485677.jpg


Jeremy Corbyn during one of his appearances on the Iranian channel Press TV

But no evidence of this has been found. Instead, most of his appearances focus on his anti-West, anti-Israel views.

One Labour MP criticised the party leader’s links to Press TV, and said he should donate all the money to a Jewish charity.

In 2011 Mr Corbyn took part in a round-table discussion on the channel with journalist Yvonne Ridley, lamenting the killing of Osama bin Laden.

He attacked the lack of a trial for the 9/11 mastermind and said Barack Obama had become another ‘Pentagon president like the rest of them’. He told the programme: ‘This was an assassination attempt and is yet another tragedy upon a tragedy.’


Mr Corbyn also suggested that there was something ‘fishy’ because Bin Laden had been buried at sea, and said he could have been killed years earlier.

But he did not raise any objection when a contributor called the BBC ‘Zionist liars’ and described Israel as a ‘disease’. Press TV was taken off air in the UK in 2012 and restricted to the internet after broadcasting an interview with Maziar Bahari, an imprisoned journalist, which was conducted under duress.

Mr Corbyn told PinkNews his £20,000 fee for four appearances between 2009 and 2012 ‘wasn’t an enormous amount, actually’.

£5k a pop for 4 appearance over 3 years probably isn't that much in those circles. He'd have gotten more on Have I Got News For You!

I obviously do not agree that there was something fishy about bin Laden's death but there is an argument to say a trial and conviction would have been better than death and martyrdom - How realistic that was, is for another thread
 
Kinnock started it with the purge of Millitant but it was a combination of Smith/Blair/Brown & Mendleson that produced the New Labour idea.
The Labour party today is basically Millitant though, so they're stuffed for a generation if Boris wins and gets it remotely right. Do well with the DE voter demographic and you win an election.
By the way Thatcher did very well with the D demographic (white van man) not so well with E.
 
Are you referring to the date? If so he was 31. That’s old enough to have morals/respect. His recent comments about gay people, black people and Muslim women don’t show much improvement in that either.
The comments about Muslim women actually backed their right to ware what they want even though their clothing is misogynistic to Western eyes.
 
Tory boys you're stinking the joint out with your hatred of Corbyn.
Why don't you book a conference room at a hotel, put up a picture of Jezz and have your mutual mass debate there instead of polluting this place.
Right back atcha!
 
Ms Primark waving her arms around and already being a bit embarrasing.
I realise why Johnson couldn't come on here - he wouldn't have a clue on the subject matter or have anything to say.
 

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