General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Vic said:
Classic illustration of "the triumph of hope over experience"
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Good god. Show me the last successful hard left Labour party, for fucks sake. And you have the temerity to criticise like that????

Probably the most ludicrously ironic post on the entire thread.
 
Vic said:
Oh I don't know.

Why will your life be better if we leave the EU? Would you rather leave the EU or continue to have free medical treatment (as you get older)?
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Lives probably won’t be better for at least another 50 years(source:Mogg) but Leave ‘won’ and apparently that’s what people still want

I thought Johnson missing every deadline, being unable to answer questions, lack of preparation and avoiding interviews, his party doctoring videos, giving misleading nursing numbers unnecessarily, the Party pretending to be an online fact-checking service etc. would have counted for something but it doesn’t. Cleary.

So we will go through with it, tangibly lives won’t improve, we’ll still spend years consumed by it then we’ll look for someone else to blame
 
Chippy_boy said:
Good god. Show me the last successful hard left Labour party, for fucks sake. And you have the temerity to criticise like that????

Probably the most ludicrously ironic post on the entire thread.
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I suppose that nationalising utilities, transport, health service, coal and steel industries, is a bit hard left, so that would be the 1945 Labour government. I won't bother with the trivial stuff like occupational pensions for workers in those industries, health and safety at work acts, and a right to a 20-minute break for shopworkers every 6 hours etc etc. So successful that no Conservative government dared dismantle those "successes" till Thatcher.
 
meltonblue said:
Completely agree with this, drives me nuts on both sides. Glass houses and all that, there’s no moral high ground to be had there whatsoever, “we’re slightly less racist than you” is still nothing to be proud of.

Just on the conservatives, they were asked for clarification on their processes by the EHRC earlier this year too and since then they’ve had a few cases where they’ve allowed people back in (or not suspended them in the first place). They’ve been asked again recently so we could have a situation where both of our main parties are under investigation by the EHRC, which is a fucking appalling state of affairs.

You’re right it’s on Johnson now, let’s hope his investigation isn’t as pointless as Chakrabatis...
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Pointless? Her diligence and forensic examination earned her an almost instant peerage and a place on Corbyn's front bench.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
No it's not. That's a ridiculously dumb thing to say. Being gay isn't a religion. Being Muslim is a choice, being gay isn't.

If I don't believe in a magic imaginary sky fairy and find the whole concept of what is necessary to subjugate oneself in worship of said sky fairy to be ludicrous, in what sense would I have any respect for any segment of the religion, especially one that promotes hatred of others in a book that is meant to be regarded as "perfect", "incorruptible" and "the absolute final word of the one true God"?

Hating MUSLIMS is the definition of Islamophobia, just as homophobia is the hatred of homosexuals. Hating the religion is not. The more conservative Muslims are trying to change the definition for it to mean hatred of the religion, but nowhere in the world (except maybe Saudi Arabia) is it considered taboo or immoral to voice opposition to a religion. That;'s why we're allowed to criticise Christianity and not be observed as "Christianophobes".
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I don't think there are many non muslims that admire Islam, its tenets are, pretty obnoxious, as indeed, at one stage, was
Christianity. The difference is that around 500 years ago Christianity had a reformation that abandoned these vile strictures,
Islam has rigidly held to them, and that inspires the fanatical behaviour that is far and away the biggest cause of terrorism on the planet.
For another thread though.
 
Pretty poor show from all sides in the election so far. With politics and especially politicians being thought so lowly of by the public, I can't see much that has changed that opinion the past few weeks. If only there was a none of the above box on the ballot paper?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
And many of us will be like this

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''Some like it hot,''
One of my favourite films, and Marilyn Monroe was sensational...

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bluethrunthru said:
thats like saying you can't be a racist as some people you work with and the guy who cuts your hair are black ffs........if Labour are racist then why does the Jewish Labour Movement exist - thats the level or your argument
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Because many in Labour hate Jews, Jewish Labour, probably one of the oldest political affiliations, has withdrawn its' support
for Labour, so the level of your argument is below zero.
 
SWP's back said:
@Len Rum what do we make of the polls fella?

Any hope left or is all lost?
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Ha Ha,you obviously remember 2015.
Not much hope -hung parliament best Labour can hope for, but looking like a Tory majority. However after Labour lost Scotland that result is now baked into the British electoral system.
Tbf to moi the polls were wrong back in the day and again in 2017.
 
Ban-jani said:
1. Because there are thousands of complaints not dealt with and the leadership has actively intervened to stop some going through. The rhetoric and behaviour from Corbyn and the party against Israel, often siding with extremists on the other side, has meant this wave has gone through. The Panorama documentary that spoke to many inside the party, often who’s job it was to deal with tasks, said the problem is an epidemic.

Please don’t fucking accuse me of believing anything I read in the press. For the record I read nearly every newspaper on my lunch to get a balance and take everything with a pinch of salt. It’s a terrible tactic you lot play.

What does it matter if I’m Jewish or not? Are you going to ask me if I’m Israeli next?

Would you ask someone appalled at racism towards black people if they were black?

2. The polls have, 100,000’s have been polled over the last few years and it’s returned shocking figures. Most will try Israel and if they can’t they will go anywhere they can that’s safer than a Labour led government here. Israel try and take as many as they can to ensure their safety anyway so many will probably get in. But if you’re British and you wish to move, you normally fit many criteria’s.

Surely the point is them wanting to go though? Surely!
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U read nearly every newspaper in your iunch to get a balanced view?
Who reads newspapers now?
Nearly every one?
At your age?
To get a balance?
Do me a favour.
This issue is all about Corbyn's support for the two state settlement to the Israel Paestine conflict and nothing to do with anti semitism.
Wake up and smell it.
 
Vic said:
That makes no sense. Put me in charge of nuclear policy and I'll say "this present MAD policy is not a good one for the country". I suppose the next thing is that you'd tell me I'm being patronising by knowing what's best for the country.
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It makes perfect sense.
If the Labour party announce, and include in their manifesto, a commitment to unilaterally disarm, which, as Corbyn
is still in CND is what he wants, then why not do it, instead of a stupid, infantile policy of keeping it but never having any
intention of using it? The reason is crystal clear, other than for CND nutters, it would be political suicide, but the problem for
them is the stance they've taken, as with Brexit, is to dither, and declare a ludicrous policy that is supposed to appease both,
but all it has succeeded in doing is guaranteeing it receives ridicule from both.
 
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