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mosssideblue
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At first I thought you were a wum, but you are actually serious. UnbelievableMancini and pelligrini
looks like I am fella . It’s called having an opinion something which is frowned upon on this forumAt first I thought you were a wum, but you are actually serious. Unbelievable
mosssideblue
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looks like I am fella . It’s called having an opinion something which is frowned upon on this forum
I simply found your opinion to be so ridiculous it was simply challenged, not frowned upon
Stoned Rose
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Deulofeu
I like him but hes not a striker pal.
I like him but hes not a striker pal.
I admit that he’s more of a winger/forward but he does ooze quality. He’s very quick and creative. But I guess he’d only be someone we might consider if Sane were to leave.
My problem is I don’t think the world stops without pep . Don’t get me wrong he is probably one of the greatest managers of all time and we are lucky to have had probably 5 great seasons when he goes which I think he will. But this season our plan A is not working the way it should be so we should have a plan B. Take the Norwich and wolves games in which we basically ran out of ideas and no one on the pitch knew how to change it . We won 2 titles without playing peps style so we will be more than ok once pep decides to go . I don’t get people that think someone’s opinion is ridiculous because it’s not there’s .you know what I’m 49 and I respect every poster who goes on this forum and if I don’t agree with what they say I still respect them . But I suppose not everyone is like me.I simply found your opinion to be so ridiculous it was simply challenged, not frowned upon
I'm With Stupid
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I agree. One of the reasons for our success is that we continue to play our game even when the pressure's on and a team is hard to break down. I mean what could we do that we're not already doing. What people usually mean by a plan B is that we should lump balls into the box.We have 37 goals this season 7 more than liverpool, suggests we don’t really need a plan b attacking wise. By the way what’s Liverpool's plan b ? How many winning teams really have a plan b that involves abandoning the teams principles and playing a different way. Didn’t win titles playing Pep’s way, who’s that baldy bloke on the bench then?
Personally I'd like to see Pep be a bit more tactically flexible, but not in these sorts of games where we're struggling to break teams down. I think in those games, he does everything he can. I'd like him to have more of a plan B in these two-legged Champions League games, where sometimes playing another way and playing to contain a team could help us get a result.
Having said all of that, I think we are having issues with putting chances away this season. We have 7 more goals that Liverpool, but all of that can be put down to that 8-0 against Watford. In other games, we've struggled to convert our chances, and more worryingly, we've struggled to create many clear-cut chances in quite a few games. I was watching the highlights of the Real Madrid vs PSG game yesterday and the sheer number of genuinely good chances created was pretty impressive. I know that part of that is because they're against another good attacking team, but still. And yes, scoring more than Liverpool is good, but let's be honest, as efficient as Liverpool have been at winning, they've also not exactly been playing great football this season. I think both teams are playing worse than last season, but unfortunately our level has dropped more than theirs.
mosssideblue
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My problem is I don’t think the world stops without pep . Don’t get me wrong he is probably one of the greatest managers of all time and we are lucky to have had probably 5 great seasons when he goes which I think he will. But this season our plan A is not working the way it should be so we should have a plan B. Take the Norwich and wolves games in which we basically ran out of ideas and no one on the pitch knew how to change it . We won 2 titles without playing peps style so we will be more than ok once pep decides to go . I don’t get people that think someone’s opinion is ridiculous because it’s not there’s .you know what I’m 49 and I respect every poster who goes on this forum and if I don’t agree with what they say I still respect them . But I suppose not everyone is like me.
This discussion rose because you were of the opinion we should bring in someone to work under Pep knowing they wouldn't be a Pep player, can you not see why that was highlighted
blueparrot
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I agree with a lot of that, however I think our level has dropped a bit on the other hand opposition coaches aren't stupid they have seen whtat we have done for 2 years and will set up to counter that. Mainly by defending deep and cutting off that area were we pulled them out and Sterling, Sane and Bernardo were getting in around the 6 yard box, refusing to come out. It means we are getting space wide but because we are small have nobody to cross to.Don't think we have quite found a way around it yet, hopefully Pep will, I'm sure he's working on it.I agree. One of the reasons for our success is that we continue to play our game even when the pressure's on and a team is hard to break down. I mean what could we do that we're not already doing. What people usually mean by a plan B is that we should lump balls into the box.
Personally I'd like to see Pep be a bit more tactically flexible, but not in these sorts of games where we're struggling to break teams down. I think in those games, he does everything he can. I'd like him to have more of a plan B in these two-legged Champions League games, where sometimes playing another way and playing to contain a team could help us get a result.
Having said all of that, I think we are having issues with putting chances away this season. We have 7 more goals that Liverpool, but all of that can be put down to that 8-0 against Watford. In other games, we've struggled to convert our chances, and more worryingly, we've struggled to create many clear-cut chances in quite a few games. I was watching the highlights of the Real Madrid vs PSG game yesterday and the sheer number of genuinely good chances created was pretty impressive. I know that part of that is because they're against another good attacking team, but still. And yes, scoring more than Liverpool is good, but let's be honest, as efficient as Liverpool have been at winning, they've also not exactly been playing great football this season. I think both teams are playing worse than last season, but unfortunately our level has dropped more than theirs.
In games with Tottenham and Norwitch our problem was shocking defending, not lack of goals.... this season our plan A is not working the way it should be so we should have a plan B. Take the Norwich and wolves games in which we basically ran out of ideas and no one on the pitch knew how to change it.
There always will be games when we can score only one goal. It's nothing new.
That's why it is important to have competent defence. Our is not.
Stoned Rose
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I admit that he’s more of a winger/forward but he does ooze quality. He’s very quick and creative. But I guess he’d only be someone we might consider if Sane were to leave.
Hes got a lot of the 'Pep player' qualities we talk about and I've no doubt given better team mates and 'something to play for' he'd be even better than he is.
Dont know if he has the work ethic though mate
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I agree with a lot of that, however I think our level has dropped a bit on the other hand opposition coaches aren't stupid they have seen whtat we have done for 2 years and will set up to counter that. Mainly by defending deep and cutting off that area were we pulled them out and Sterling, Sane and Bernardo were getting in around the 6 yard box, refusing to come out. It means we are getting space wide but because we are small have nobody to cross to.Don't think we have quite found a way around it yet, hopefully Pep will, I'm sure he's working on it.
Wouldn't the answer be to have a tall striker who can attack those crosses? Haaland perhaps?
This discussion rose because you were of the opinion we should bring in someone to work under Pep knowing they wouldn't be a Pep player, can you not see why that was highlighted
I still think sometimes you need to break with what you know and try something or someone different . End of the day you don’t agree with and I probably don’t agree with you so no point going over thingsThis discussion rose because you were of the opinion we should bring in someone to work under Pep knowing they wouldn't be a Pep player, can you not see why that was highlighted
Can’t moan about the spurs game as we did everything but win . But the wolves and Norwich games I thought we ran out of ideas and if we would have had someone like dzecko we could have put some crosses into the box knowing someone could actually head the ballIn games with Tottenham and Norwitch our problem was shocking defending, not lack of goals.
There always will be games when we can score only one goal. It's nothing new.
That's why it is important to have competent defence. Our is not.
I'm With Stupid
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I think it's a case of balancing continuity and tactical variation. Do you want two strikers that are similar enough so they can slip in and out of the team without much change in the system, or do you want two strikers who are completely different and allow you to use different tactics? The latter might be useful occasionally against a stubborn defence, but with our schedule, both strikers will get plenty of game time, and now suddenly you're in a situation where you're having to play different tactics to get the best out of two very different strikers, and do so from the start of matches, not just when you're struggling to break down 10 men behind the ball. Try and play Dzeko like he's Aguero and you won't get the best out of him. But try and play to Dzeko's strengths from the start of matches, and you might not get the best out of the whole team.Wouldn't the answer be to have a tall striker who can attack those crosses? Haaland perhaps?
Obviously if you can get a player who's capable of playing like Aguero and is also excellent in the air, then that would be great, but it's not as if players like that are being offered to us on a plate. I've not really seen Haaland play so I don't know if he'd be able to fit into the way we already play. But of course if Aguero leaves, we may have to change our style of football slightly anyway. Based on the brief clips I've seen of him, he'd be a good understudy to a player like Harry Kane.
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Lautaro Martinez has just scored 2 very good goals in the 1st half, one with his head and another from deep with a drive into the bottom corner. Hat trick coming in the 2nd half? A few more million on his head.
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He will be 150m, he is way too good for inter to sell imo.Lautaro Martinez has just scored 2 very good goals in the 1st half, one with his head and another from deep with a drive into the bottom corner. Hat trick coming in the 2nd half? A few more million on his head.