General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Len Rum]

Come on Labour, gotta start goading the Don for a reaction on the NHS.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The election campaign is a shambles due to the mediah only bothering with leaders. We need to have debates between home, office, foreign office, environment, treasury spokesman. After all we elect a party to govern, not a president.

Our political system is a lie and utterly broken.

 

[Ban-jani]

medical professionals you say - @Bigga you crack me up

Unfortunately Bigga, a once decent poster on here who probably still offers a lot in the Trump thread, has completely lost his head over Labour and is now posting Michael Walker videos and referring to him as a medical professional.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Seems a good a place as any to put this

That seems outlandishly implausible.

 

[George Hannah]

Come on Labour, gotta start goading the Don for a reaction on the NHS.

oh dear Len, has it come to this?

 

[remember arthur mann]

medical professionals you say - @Bigga you crack me up

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

For doing fcuk all to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions , yeah.
2050.
Fu cough.

Their policies on the environment are an absolute fucking disgrace. Cunts.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Fuck me pal you have it bad.

Given you are so sure of yourself why don't you pull him up directly instead of confining yourself to this relative backwater.

The world is waiting for some chippy wisdom.

If Johnson gets in the trend for an increasing proportion of the NHS budget will be spent externally and thus the cost to the taxpayer will rise exponentially.

Cue - we can't afford this, we need to move towards private healthcare.

Any extra money spent on drugs will be done on a value for money basis and more likely in the UK once we're out of the EU.

 

[George Hannah]

Our political system is a lie and utterly broken.

A solution lies in the possibility that the GE result will cause both main parties to splinter and realign around serving the real interests of the electorate now and in the future.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Tory lead I said not the vote,down to just 6-9% now.

https://britainelects.newstatesman.com/who-leads-in-our-poll-tracker/
Still 10.6% according to the latest poll of polls +/- 2.5%

 

[Bigga]

medical professionals you say - @Bigga you crack me up

Are they... actors?

What's your empty point??

Oh, I know... MORE deflection...

 

[Bigga]

Unfortunately Bigga, a once decent poster on here who probably still offers a lot in the Trump thread, has completely lost his head over Labour and is now posting Michael Walker videos and referring to him as a medical professional.

Can you show me evidence in the video that the two talking were not who they claimed?

Thanks.

 

[Postman Pep]

and how do think he proposes to change the capitalist system?
"In this blog, Labour’s Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell considers the uses of this ever-changing, multiplicitous party, asking what is the Labour Party for?
What is the Labour Party for? This has been the question at the centre of the party’s history since the first trade unionists and progressives came together to discuss whether an independent political party to represent working people should exist at all. The question has focused on whether the Labour Party is a party of social reform aiming simply to ameliorate our existing capitalist society, or a reformist party that seeks to replace capitalism by incremental social reform, or a transformative, some would say revolutionary party, aiming at the radical replacement of the existing economic and social system." https://www.plutobooks.com/blog/what-is-the-labour-party-for-john-mcdonnell/

I'd guess that as his revolutionary instincts that you fear so much would be constrained by reality a pragmatic approach would be sought. Amelioration has had its day so that only leaves one option.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

A solution lies in the possibility that the GE result will cause both main parties to splinter and realign around serving the real interests of the electorate now and in the future.

Highly doubt it.

 

[George Hannah]

Are they... actors? What's your empty point?? Oh, I know... MORE deflection...

Deflection? Point? Actors? Medical professionals? Calm yourself friend.

 

[Len Rum]

oh dear Len, has it come to this?

Gloves off time George.
10 points behind in the polls, what would you suggest - Marquis of Queensbury rules?

 

[Bigga]

Deflection? Point? Actors? Medical professionals? Calm yourself friend.

Another non answer.

You know you're doing quite badly, right...?

 

[George Hannah]

I'd guess that as his revolutionary instincts that you fear so much would be constrained by reality a pragmatic approach would be sought. Amelioration has had its day so that only leaves one option.

I suspect you haven't had much to do with the chaps who currently run Momentum, the big unions and the Labour Party. Pragmatism and being constrained isn't what they are in politics for.

 

[bluethrunthru]

A solution lies in the possibility that the GE result will cause both main parties to splinter and realign around serving the real interests of the electorate now and in the future.

The result will just be the same sort of stalemate of a hung Parliament as we had before - at this rate the EU will kick us out on our arses with a take it or leave it shit deal because there is nothing in it for them now - its clear the UK is divided and will go through decades of arguing with ourselves, stagnating and getting nothing done. There are posters on here who predict the break up of the EU without the UK - they have had fuck all from us politically for 3 years and they are doing well enough - they will leave us to have an election cycle of once every two years until we end up going back to them cap in hand. Cameron is the first in a long line that needs to hang his head in shame.

 

[George Hannah]

Another non answer. You know you're doing quite badly, right...?

Me in particular or us in general?