Why such a comment?
Why is it that so many posters seem not to be able to get their heads around the simple fact to so many people Corbyn, along with McDonnell, Abbot etc. are just simply detestable and considered to be the worst possible thing for the UK.
This does not mean that these people have admiration or respect for Johnson - for a lot of them quite the opposite.
What it means is simply that Corbyn, along with McDonnell, Abbot etc. are just simply detestable and considered to be the worst possible thing for the UK.
Johnson represents one thing and one thing only - the chance to stop Corbyn.
So many on here seem keen to take cheap shots at those that hate the idea of Corbyn in power by associating them to Johnson and Trump.
My view is that the science is pretty clear and that globally we have been ignoring this stuff for the last thirty years. Small changes that could have made a difference 20 years ago are no longer enough. My own cynical view is that we will continue along those lines, tinkering and feeling worthy about the tinkering and increasingly we will have to start paying the price of mitigation rather than avoidance. The consequences of rising sea levels and an increased frequency of violent weather events will have us spending significantly more than if we had curbed carbon emissions years ago. But that’s the way of the world. Concerted action across the globe certainly won’t happen.Its because it cant be discussed sensibly any longer.
You either believe and agree the world is about to end and that life as we know it has to change immediately or your some sort of climate Nazi.
Id wager the vast majority are worried, do want some changes and already do contribute their bit ie recycling where possible, use of public transport, cycling, walking etc instead of using the car. Have cut down their meat intake etc etc but for a small very vocal few it isn't enough and rather than being encouraged they just get called silly names and like much of today's political debate, fucked off with it all.
You’d think in the circumstances, mate.
Greens, Labour, SNP and Lib Dem’s all have some good stuff on investment in public transport. I think Labours goes furthest from what I remember.Free public transport would be a vote winner. Might decimate the car industry but what's more important, having a car or a planet to drive on?
too late for that, they will just keep adding more prizes for Labour votes which everyone knows don't exist.
We need to find a way of taking the excess co2 out of the atmosphere. I feel that’s the only viable solution.My view is that the science is pretty clear and that globally we have been ignoring this stuff for the last thirty years. Small changes that could have made a difference 20 years ago are no longer enough. My own cynical view is that we will continue along those lines, tinkering and feeling worthy about the tinkering and increasingly we will have to start paying the price of mitigation rather than avoidance. The consequences of rising sea levels and an increased frequency of violent weather events will have us spending significantly more than if we had curbed carbon emissions years ago. But that’s the way of the world. Concerted action across the globe certainly won’t happen.
Maybe they should, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.Maybe the Vietnamese government should foot the bill as they are their citizens?
Any attempts to do anything won't be seen or felt for decades and the UK is doing better than others in that regard. It's an important issue, granted, but not an immediate issue which would cause any significant changes, not for at least three terms in office.I am astounded that nobody thinks climate change is worth discussing or that any party are majoring on it other than the greens. It will quite quickly become the single biggest issue facing all of us and the science says it needs emergency drastic action now. It’s a bit alarming that the one newsworthy event coming out of the leaders climate debate was Johnson’s non attendance. So the choices we make in a few days time will a significant impact on that one issue. We have a unique global responsibility as the nation that invented the industrial revolution. Interesting to see how that will develop under a Tory government outside of the EU.
My view is that the science is pretty clear and that globally we have been ignoring this stuff for the last thirty years. Small changes that could have made a difference 20 years ago are no longer enough. My own cynical view is that we will continue along those lines, tinkering and feeling worthy about the tinkering and increasingly we will have to start paying the price of mitigation rather than avoidance. The consequences of rising sea levels and an increased frequency of violent weather events will have us spending significantly more than if we had curbed carbon emissions years ago. But that’s the way of the world. Concerted action across the globe certainly won’t happen.
Maybe they should, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.
Raab and patel charging the vietmanese families 2 grand each to get thier relatives bodies back.
Tight fuckers
Oh, I know it's too late. 5 years too late. Corbyn has been a 10 year set back for Labour. His reign will be looked back upon as a dark period in Labour's history, during which it completely lost its way and became unelectable. Much as it was before Blair came along. What the Labour party needs now is Blair 2.0
And lunatics like Len, Fumble, Bigga and IfIwasonly... need to fuck off and find some other party to ruin. And let Labour get back to promoting reasonable, sensible and pragmatic policies which resonate with a majority. Not idealology driven bollocks. Least of all, based on deeply flawed ideology.
Not sure that is right according to this:
https://scramnews.com/government-heartlessness-vietnam-lorry-victims-repatriation/
Loans have been offered by the vietnamese governement to cover the cost of repatriation of the bodies. The grieving families will just add that debt to the much larger debts they accruded in financing people smugglers. Still, 39 bodies at around £2200 each is small fry and as a gesture of humanity you would think governments would pay this. Doesn't really compare cost wise to some of the koney wasted on the brexit that hasn't happened yet. Maybe the governments poreferred ferry company with no boats could have offered to take the bodies hom free of charge.
SpotI've said all along its for governments globally to sort it out if it is such a present and clear danger to the planet many claim it to be.
That includes China and India, not just us here.
I do my bit, recycle, cycle most journeys local now, bus and train within and hour if with the wife and kids and the car comes out when it has to. I pay extra like we all do on my bills to go to greener energy, i have smart meters, smart thermostats, fully insulated, double glazing etc and we have even cut down on out meat intake.
Cant and wont do anymore than that whilst i look around and much of the pollution is being done by countries and people very much left alone by the protesters who in my humble opinion are the ones behaving like Nazis on the subject, pissing people off and turning many away from listening to their arguments.
It also boils my piss to listen to politicians suddenly giving a fuck about it all and pretending its the number one issue when we know most couldn't give a fuck and will only see it as an opportunity to raise tax whilst doing very fucking little about it.
The IRONY of this completely stupid statement is that there was no BIGGER idea of socialism then when the NHS was implemented under Labour in Trafford.
That was called 'communism' by the Tories back then.
"Reasonable" for you is the neoliberalism politics of the Cons and Con-Lite of New Labour that allowed the crash and millions to be affected, all so the rich could keep their cash and we had to bail them out. It's alright to spend money then, isn't it? It's alright to bribe a small party with a billion quid when we "don't have a money tree", isn't it??
It's alright to see the rise of homeless, poverty, violence, squeezed wages all for the sake of giving the rich tax breaks and 'strong economies'.
Been hearing that phrase for 5 years now and nothing has changed, in fact this country has gotten worse!
It's not US that has to "fuck off" cos we are actual Labour supporters in principle and practicality.
YOU are a Tory, even if 'lite', but you can't bring yourself to admit it, so fuck off over there and stay.
Your kind of politics make me sick.
Your kind of politics make me sick.
A recent but vociferous defender of the supreme leader is our Bigga i will give him that.
Usually to be found on other threads calling anyone and everyone who doesnt agree with him a racist so whilst its a change of scenery for the lad, he is as ever fucking dull as dishwater.
Raab and patel charging the vietmanese families 2 grand each to get thier relatives bodies back.
Tight fuckers
What a complete load of tosh.If Johnson achieves his stated aim of ending transition by the end of 2020, that would be more damaging than anything unless he backs down and agrees a SM/CU arrangement with the EU which he politically can't do.
The good news is that he'll fail. Imo.
Excellent!
By the way, the world and the UK have moved on a tad since when the NHS was established. Perhaps one day you might.