General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
That does not seem to work for me

It would only make sense if we have a Bluemoon specific definition of what Left - Centre - Right wing is which is different to normal views

I am from a Labour background - have certainly voted Labour more than any other party - I would consider myself Centre-Left - I would consider @blueinsa and quite a few others on here as centre-left - and only a very small number as clearly 'right-wing'

Would our posts be seen as Left, Centre or Right in your assessment?

The point I am making is that I believe that statement - IMO - is only credible if you are comparing from a personal POV - in this case yours - and anyone not as left as you - is Right.

It simply could not - again IMO - stand up against a comparison with normal measures

the issue is blurred because in bluemoon land anyone who voted leave is a far right racist nutter . So the true identities get lost a little in the general election debate.

the issue is exacerbated by the Labour Party swinging so far left it’s left everyone going christ where have you all gone and we are all left contemplating voting Tory for the first time.
 
Am I hearing right, jo Swinson now wants a second referendum ?

She's dead in the water, if true!

Exactly what I predicted, if so, that her supporters would rather back Labour with that second ref option than be undemocratic in retracting anything.

She would have self destructed, so we'll wait and see if this pans out.
 
That makes no sense. Corbyn hardly makes it a secret what his views are. Conning implies deceit over his real views which is odd given you and others have been linking to speeches, articles and comments made by Corbyn to demonstrate his views.

Even odder is that Johnson does con people given his views are entirely shaped by what he thinks people want to hear rather than what he believes. Johnson is the guy who wrote a pro EU and anti EU article and published the one that best furthered his career.

It makes no sense through your lefty spectacles. No surprises there.

To the neutral, the line "Corbyn hardly makes it a secret what his view are" is absolutely hilarious. Read it again and have a laugh yourself. This is a guy who lies through his teeth about what his views are, constantly. He's a bloody Brexit supporter for a fucking start. Then there's the shoot to kill bollocks, the nuclear button, Trident. Not to mention the biggest fucking whopper of the lot: The Labour Party Manifesto and the "only 5% of people will be worse off". If you believe that Bob, you are thick as pig shit, and I didn't think you were.

Daft Bob said:
Closer to Election Day we get the more insane gibberish is posted.

How true.
 
You can't base that off a count of 200 voting in a poll.

You can base that of the voters, not the forum members.

You'd need a poll to reflect the closest moral position a person would be and extrapolate middling positions as well.

It may well turn out to be right to go off as above, just not an accurate test.

Currently, what are there... 57/ 58 people between Tories and Labour?

Very very small, on reflection.

Man up, just once in your life. You never know it might not feel that bad.
 
the issue is blurred because in bluemoon land anyone who voted leave is a far right racist nutter . So the true identities get lost a little in the general election debate.

the issue is exacerbated by the Labour Party swinging so far left it’s left everyone going christ where have you all gone and we are all left contemplating voting Tory for the first time.
I agree.

So this means that the far left have fucked up the opportunity for a Centre Left government

Hope they are proud - or at least understand that they are directly responsible for the next 5 years of Tory government

Bet they do not
 
Am I hearing right, jo Swinson now wants a second referendum ?

She's dead in the water, if true!

Exactly what I predicted, if so, that her supporters would rather back Labour with that second ref option than be undemocratic in retracting anything.

She would have self destructed, so we'll wait and see if this pans out.

Whatever they go for, they plan to revoke the Leave vote with a so-called "Peoples vote" where you can vote Remain or Remain (Without a vote on the EU council). They think that "thicko" Leavers won't notice.
At least the Lib Dems were being honest with their policy. Now they're decided, like the rest, that lying is the best policy.

 
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https://news.sky.com/story/sky-view...to-get-voters-to-sign-a-blank-cheque-11877607

Interesting enough read, and imho not unfair.

this might have been posted before (i've skipped loads of pages), but the voteforpolicies.org.uk site is up for this one, if folk havnt 'played' it.

What is interesting, is the statistics at the end of it, when it breaks down input results by constituenciy, nation, and uk as a whole.

Spoiler, the greens are significantly the most popular (or have the most popular policies) right across the country (circa 800K participants, so not an insignificant sample).
Yet nobody votes for them. Fptp i guess.

Worth a go if people havnt already done it.
 
No. It is based on the premise of production and wealth being more equally shared by the community as a whole and not just in the hands of a small group thereby benefiting the community as a whole.

We have socialised Health, Education, protection via the forces and police and transport infrastructure ie roads and railway network. The question isn’t socialism ‘yes or no’ but how much socialism. In the US socialist Health care is the prelude to the end of civilisation. Here it just means being able to receive medical treatment.

It is remarkable how the level of debate on issues like ‘socialism’ have failed to advance beyond ‘Socialism bad’ and ‘politics of envy’.
'Production, distribution and exchange' = state control = Socialism = ruin.
Your deflection fails to recognise this, all of a sudden now it's bits of socialism.
 
What the fuck are you talking about?

Don't be a knob forever!
What I'm talking about is your constantly being in denial about facts which don't suit your narrative. You do it all the time, hence me suggesting you man up for a change.

This latest bollocks from you is just yet another example. The forum is plainly left-leaning. Everyone knows it is, because it's fucking obvious. Look at our club's history, location and the demographic of our core supporters. Look at the fucking poll at the top of the page.

But no, yet again you're in denial about reality.
 
It’s a meta-analysis of all polls combined.

You should also probably take into account the silent Tory where polling is concerned and the fact that the stories generally perform better in elections than polls would indicate.


You can try and wrap yourself up in the blanket of it not being a representation of the National mood if you want. Hell, get down the bookies and stick a ton on a Labour majority if you’re so confident.
'Shy' Tories are a considerable demographic, folk who don't like being screamed at as racists and bastards may well swing
the result. In contrast, there doesn't appear to be many shy labour voters.
 

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