General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Bigga said:
You don't often see Americans picking up small things we're denied of.



The temerity of people saying how Labour candidates lie!

Notice how TV haven't picked it up?
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What are you talking about? The video was absolutely every where.
 
Chippy_boy said:
No-one reads this stuff you keep posting you know Bob. We had a vote on it 2 or 3 years back IIRC.
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Luckily the article isn’t two or three years old and is about how the future will shape up. I get that you are too frightened to look but honestly it’s ok you can come out from behind the sofa. Be of stout heart and screw your courage to the sticking place.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Don't know if anyone caught the latest McDonnell pack of lies on the radio around lunchtime yesterday? Radio 4 I think it probably was - I was driving and listened to a bit of it before throwing things at the radio.

His latest pack of lies is the "every household will be £7,000 a year better off". My GOD he must think voters are thick, because he actually tried to defend it. Notwithstanding the BBC analyst pulling it to pieces.

So let's add up this £7,000 for every household shall we. The lying **** says:

£2,000 saved on a pair of rail season tickets. Only most people don't have season tickets. And anyway the savings would be paid for by increased road tax on the cars that most people do have.
£2,941 saved on childcare. Only most households don't have children of an eligible age

So that's £5,000 of his promised £7,000 that for most people does not actually exist. For more people than not, the above is simply a tax increase.

Then we have £559 on energy bills, which anyone who already has an insulated home with double glazing, won't be seeing either. And a variety of other fantasy policies.

Robert Colvile, the director of the think-tank Centre for Policy Studies, tweeted: "Even by the standards of modern politics, it is impossible to stress how bloody shoddy these numbers are and how quickly they fall apart."

Tom Hamilton wrote: “Anyone who tells you Labour will put £6,717 in your pocket is lying to you, it’s as simple as that”.

The reality is, Labour will push up interest rates (100% inevitable and unavoidable) and therefore significantly increase mortgages, rents and credit card bills. Making pretty much *everyone* much worse off. We all know this, only people like @Bigga are simply in denial about it.

@Vic: Are you going to start referring McDonnell as "Liar McDonnell", in keeping with how you like to refer to Boris?
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Last went on a train in 1988 so i don't get that one kids all grown up so nothing there for me house well insulated nothing there either but 2 car family so reckon i will be worse off.
 
From a former advisor to HM Treasury...

‘If the Tories win, HMT is going to have a real job managing expectations ahead of Budget. By historic standards there is v little headroom against the new fiscal rules: 5b a year against c700b current spending. Hammond left office with 27b of headroom against his deficit target. This could easily be wiped out if the OBR downgrade their forcecast for the economy/public finances. HMT will therefore want to build up a much bigger buffer to guard against future forecast moves / unexpected spending pressures. That means raising some tax at some point.

Even the manifesto raised more tax than it cut, but they will prob have to go further. And all political logic points to doing it in the first Budget of a new parl: get the politically difficult stuff done while MP discipline remains high and next GE is still a long way off...This is going to be an ongoing problem for the Tories: long-term pressures from ageing / healthcare / decarb means direction of travel is for tax rises, not cuts. Suspect the tax-cutting part of the party is not going to enjoy the 2020s’
 


Further proof if needed on how the media treat the lying shit in comparison with other party leaders.
 
mat said:


Further proof if needed on how the media treat the lying shit in comparison with other party leaders.
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Christ alive. Don't think that Andrew Neill interview is in the offing when he's being grilled by these two political heavyweights. Schofield is a ****. Holly's alright tho...
 
ganganvince said:
Last went on a train in 1988 so i don't get that one kids all grown up so nothing there for me house well insulated nothing there either but 2 car family so reckon i will be worse off.
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Of course you will. The reality is the unless you are on minimum wage and benefits, you'll be worse off under Labour. Your rent or mortgage will be higher, prices in the shops will be higher and there will be more people out of work.

Bizarrely there are still some people who vote for this. Although reading the er "deep" understanding from many on here, perhaps it's not that surprising.
 
mat said:


Further proof if needed on how the media treat the lying shit in comparison with other party leaders.
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The Poke isn't "the media". It is a section of the media, one which deals in satire. This particluar satirical aspect caters to your own bias, one which portrays Johnson as a selfish, uncaring individual, which is why you support it and spread it. Some people have this perception of Boris, The Poke have latched onto it.

It is not, as you claim, "proof". It is no different to those portraying Corbyn in an antisemitic/extreme Marxist light, as "proof" of him being an anti-semite/extreme Marxist. It's a bit of fun, stop treating them as "examples" of anything. They aren't.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Of course you will. The reality is the unless you are on minimum wage and benefits, you'll be worse off under Labour. Your rent or mortgage will be higher, prices in the shops will be higher and there will be more people out of work.

Bizarrely there are still some people who vote for this. Although reading the er "deep" understanding from many on here, perhaps it's not that surprising.
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Please send me the number of your supplier ..... I am in need of some quality pharmaceuticals
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
The Poke isn't "the media". It is a section of the media, one which deals in satire. This particluar satirical aspect caters to your own bias, one which portrays Johnson as a selfish, uncaring individual, which is why you support it and spread it. Some people have this perception of Boris, The Poke have latched onto it.

It is not, as you claim, "proof". It is no different to those portraying Corbyn in an antisemitic/extreme Marxist light, as "proof" of him being an anti-semite/extreme Marxist. It's a bit of fun, stop treating them as "examples" of anything. They aren't.
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Someone is in a grumpy mood today.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Of course you will. The reality is the unless you are on minimum wage and benefits, you'll be worse off under Labour. Your rent or mortgage will be higher, prices in the shops will be higher and there will be more people out of work.

Bizarrely there are still some people who vote for this. Although reading the er "deep" understanding from many on here, perhaps it's not that surprising.
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That is because you wave something for nothing in front of the workshy their only question is were do I sign.
 
BobKowalski said:
From a former advisor to HM Treasury...

‘If the Tories win, HMT is going to have a real job managing expectations ahead of Budget. By historic standards there is v little headroom against the new fiscal rules: 5b a year against c700b current spending. Hammond left office with 27b of headroom against his deficit target. This could easily be wiped out if the OBR downgrade their forcecast for the economy/public finances. HMT will therefore want to build up a much bigger buffer to guard against future forecast moves / unexpected spending pressures. That means raising some tax at some point.

Even the manifesto raised more tax than it cut, but they will prob have to go further. And all political logic points to doing it in the first Budget of a new parl: get the politically difficult stuff done while MP discipline remains high and next GE is still a long way off...This is going to be an ongoing problem for the Tories: long-term pressures from ageing / healthcare / decarb means direction of travel is for tax rises, not cuts. Suspect the tax-cutting part of the party is not going to enjoy the 2020s’
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