General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Labour now relying on Russian hackers it appears.

Uncomfortable for some on here I would have thought given their stance in all things Russian interference the last 3 years.

Didn't see your post when it was revealed that the Tories were relying on Russian Backers.... was that too uncomfortable for you?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Labour now relying on Russian hackers it appears.

Uncomfortable for some on here I would have thought given their stance in all things Russian interference the last 3 years.

Putin seems to be behind everything if you take notice of all the news/rumours - trump, brexit, elections etc. It strikes me that if these are all true he's a very powerful chap, and Jo Swainson should consider engaging his services.

 

[blueinsa]

Didn't see your post when it was revealed that the Tories were relying on Russian Backers.... was that too uncomfortable for you?

Don't be so touchy comrade.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Labour now relying on Russian hackers it appears.

Uncomfortable for some on here I would have thought given their stance in all things Russian interference the last 3 years.

Nah, they will just move onto the next smear that they hope will stick.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

The smearing has reached the frantic stage, you never know what Jezza's going to wave next.

 

[Bigga]

Didn't see your post when it was revealed that the Tories were relying on Russian Backers.... was that too uncomfortable for you?

Why aren't these Con backers questioning why BloJo refuses to publish that particular report...?

If it includes Labour MPs, let it be so!

 

[BobKowalski]

Labour now relying on Russian hackers it appears.

Uncomfortable for some on here I would have thought given their stance in all things Russian interference the last 3 years.

Yes. They leaked the result of talks based on the previously published negotiating mandate for US trade representatives and outlined the effect an internal customs border in the U.K. will have on NI/GB trade, a provision that was outlined in the published Withdrawal Agreement. The shock of finding out that having an internal customs border will have a negative impact on internal U.K. trade was considerable. If only I had the wit to realise that prior to the Russians pointing it out.

I know we are in deep denial on these and other issues but the problem with international negotiations and agreements is that the other side reveals everything.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The smearing has reached the frantic stage, you never know what Jezza's going to wave next.

It's real desperation stuff - They even went back to Brexit yesterday - previously a no go area in case it frightens the Labour vote fodder.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It's real desperation stuff - They even went back to Brexit yesterday - previously a no go area in case it frightens the Labour vote fodder.

Personally, I don't think anyone is interested in hearing from either of them any more, minds have been made up ages ago.
I didn't bother watching last night, after a very brief flick through this morning, it was the right decision, we've heard
all we need to hear, it wouldn't now make a blind bit of difference if Johnson said he intended to starve the unemployed to death,
or Corbyn got caught spraying graffiti over a synagogue.

 

[west didsblue]

I voted to Remain. This would normally put me in a pool of people that could vote Tory/Lib Dem or Labour (Social Democrat). I also believe in Democracy and unless we leave, democracy is done in this country, so the Lib Dems can whistle this time. I'm also a little Eurosceptic so Boris's One Nation Conservatism is perfect for me - especially as he wants a deal.
I actually, like Boris as a human being too. His bumbling demeanor is quite appealing.

I also voted Remain and accepted the result at the time. What I have a problem with is a withdrawal agreement that threatens the integrity of the UK union and guarantees an economic downturn. I also have a problem with the fact that in spite of cross party support for invoking A50, no cross party consensus was sought when the WA was negotiated.

What, the "principles" of ignoring a democratic referendum result? Not great principles those mate to be honest and I am on reflection a bit embarrassed I didn't realise that rather sooner.

Who’s ignoring it? You’re just supporting it all now because the WA was negotiated by your lot without taking into account cross party concerns. Tribal support trumps concern for the country as far as you’re concerned.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

The smearing has reached the frantic stage, you never know what Jezza's going to wave next.

What ever he waves it'll be the Truth .... unlike what comes out of Johnsons mouth

 

[Ancient Citizen]

What ever he waves it'll be the Truth .... unlike what comes out of Johnsons mouth

Lol!
We'll see if that nonsense is the belief of the voting populace on Thursday.

 

[BobKowalski]

The smearing has reached the frantic stage, you never know what Jezza's going to wave next.

When you say ‘smear’ are you referring to Govt documents outlining the impact on U.K. internal trade an internal customs border will have? Were you under the impression an internal customs border will have no impact?

 

[cookster]

Unfortunately most of those who promise to emigrate every time Labour get in never do.

And for all those harping on about how Labour has changed, don't you think the Tories have too?

You're right the Tories are well out of touch with the average voter and should not be trusted.
The sad indictment for a Corbyn lead Labour party is that even with such a sub-standard government with a lousy record it can still hope to get a majority next week.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

When you say ‘smear’ are you referring to Govt documents outlining the impact on U.K. internal trade an internal customs border will have? Were you under the impression an internal customs border will have no impact?

Whatever impression I'm under, it does not include fretting about it.

 

[Metal Biker]

I also voted Remain and accepted the result at the time. What I have a problem with is a withdrawal agreement that threatens the integrity of the UK union and guarantees an economic downturn. I also have a problem with the fact that in spite of cross party support for invoking A50, no cross party consensus was sought when the WA was negotiated.

Who’s ignoring it? You’re just supporting it all now because the WA was negotiated by your lot without taking into account cross party concerns. Tribal support trumps concern for the country as far as you’re concerned.

So you'd support a WA if it had been negotiated solely by Labour instead? (Which is what Corbyn is promoting)

 

[BobKowalski]

Whatever impression I'm under, it does not include fretting about it.

One should always fret about reality rather than concerns that exist only in the imagination.

In any event our fellow citizens in NI are doing a lot of ‘fretting’. It’s not a place where we want citizens ‘fretting’.

 

[Metal Biker]

Personally, I don't think anyone is interested in hearing from either of them any more, minds have been made up ages ago.
I didn't bother watching last night, after a very brief flick through this morning, it was the right decision, we've heard
all we need to hear, it wouldn't now make a blind bit of difference if Johnson said he intended to starve the unemployed to death,
or Corbyn got caught spraying graffiti over a synagogue.

Truth!

 

[blueparrot]

Personally, I don't think anyone is interested in hearing from either of them any more, minds have been made up ages ago.
I didn't bother watching last night, after a very brief flick through this morning, it was the right decision, we've heard
all we need to hear, it wouldn't now make a blind bit of difference if Johnson said he intended to starve the unemployed to death,
or Corbyn got caught spraying graffiti over a synagogue.

Non of these debates are aimed at us, I doubt anyone that posts in here have changed their opinion or decision since the start. These TV debates are aimed entirely at swaying the undecided and there are still a fair few of those to win over.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Corbyn still saying the dossier proves the nhs is for sale , when it plainly doesn’t. It could have been written in Russian he won’t have read it or bothered to understand it.