Could we have had it without the words "European Union" on the top?Could have had blue anytime we wanted if anyone cared.
Don't know never cared enough to ask anyone.Could we have had it without the words "European Union" on the top?
I mean we had blue passports when we were a member of the EEC, but there was no "European Economic Community" stamped on it.
Quick answer; no.Don't know never cared enough to ask anyone.
Great.Quick answer; no.
Shit photo.
I had one and you knew it was blue :)
Don't know never cared enough to ask anyone.
It was actually a quite positive post - I was expecting that some would not understand itThats a very long way of saying 'We're Fucked'
Why should it matter to people what colour the passports are - that was not the reason that we left the EU and suggesting such is just Remainer nonsense.We always had a choice of colour for our passports .... it didn't have to be burgundy. But now we choose to leave the Eu we chose 'Blue' ...... the colour that was imposed on us by the League of Nations .
Taking back control? or simply missing the days of Empire
My own personal wish is that we use the freedom from the CAP to genuinely reform our farming industry. Yes, there should be subsidies to keep farming viable, but they should be geared towards quality, environmental impact and animal welfare. Lets use this opportunity to make our farming sector the best in class, and not use our money to subsidise fat French farmers.No one did, another myth.
The idea that it is a logical move to go back to blue passports is revealing as going backwards is how this feels.
Be interesting to hear if there are any genuinely new possibilities that the 1st of Feb and beyond throws up. Joining the EEC/EU was a proper step into something different that had never been tried on that scale before.
The lack of vision is worrying and does suggest this was all to do with the colour of our passport and a trade deal with the US or China after all.
There's the challenge for today then, avoiding subjective assessments regarding our relative economic worth, can anyone come up with something inspirational that we can get excited about?
My own personal wish is that we use the freedom from the CAP to genuinely reform our farming industry. Yes, there should be subsidies to keep farming viable, but they should be geared towards quality, environmental impact and animal welfare. Lets use this opportunity to make our farming sector the best in class, and not use our money to subsidise fat French farmers.
I'd like to think we would, very much doubt it though as many farms are now owned by big businesses who put managers and staff into the farms. I suspect the subsidies will stay as they are but come from the UK gavernment instead of the EU.My own personal wish is that we use the freedom from the CAP to genuinely reform our farming industry. Yes, there should be subsidies to keep farming viable, but they should be geared towards quality, environmental impact and animal welfare. Lets use this opportunity to make our farming sector the best in class, and not use our money to subsidise fat French farmers.
No idea, it's something that would be at the top of my list though.Thanks for responding. I know little about CAP or farming really but this definitely sounds positive. Do you think that this is possible and is there a group or an individual that is in place to bring such a change about?
Yeah because the 0.6% of UK GDP that farming contributes is clearly more important than the 99.4% of GDP that's nothing to do with farming.No idea, it's something that would be at the top of my list though.
You don't seem to be understanding what he, others and I were/are actually saying
You are also not setting out the full scope of the exchange - just selecting some words to try and use to run the UK/Brexit down - hence my comment
I fear for you should the UK actually achieve a decent TA with the US or EU
Just like Croatia.Could have had blue anytime we wanted if anyone cared.
Absolutely correct.If you consider the US then - as long as Trump or Trump-type doctrine is there then its American First. Look at his actions with China because of a trade imbalance then ask yourself why - given that we export more to the US than we import - would Trump want to do anything except reverse that? Remember he see's himself as the deal maker - every deal made before he came into office he refers to as the worst deal in history and bad for the States - so there is no great deal for the UK there - just the deal he will allow us to have and that will be in America's favour. Trump see's it all in black and white as win or lose - and he see's himself as the ultimate winner.
Johnson is talking about us being outside the EU and getting a better deal with Japan than the one they have just signed with the EU. That deal forbids Japan offering anyone a better deal on anything than they deal they have with the EU - ARTICLE 8;17 of the Japan / EU deal. Johnson either knows that and is lying or is stupid and doesn't know that.
Its not talking the country down its understanding the potential harm coming our way because in dealing with the UK on its own or the EU as a 27 country bloc where is the incentive for Japan to offer us an awful lot?
All you are going to end up with is a change in colour on the passports.
My own personal wish is that we use the freedom from the CAP to genuinely reform our farming industry. Yes, there should be subsidies to keep farming viable, but they should be geared towards quality, environmental impact and animal welfare. Lets use this opportunity to make our farming sector the best in class, and not use our money to subsidise fat French farmers.
If you consider the US then - as long as Trump or Trump-type doctrine is there then its American First. Look at his actions with China because of a trade imbalance then ask yourself why - given that we export more to the US than we import - would Trump want to do anything except reverse that? Remember he see's himself as the deal maker - every deal made before he came into office he refers to as the worst deal in history and bad for the States - so there is no great deal for the UK there - just the deal he will allow us to have and that will be in America's favour. Trump see's it all in black and white as win or lose - and he see's himself as the ultimate winner.
Johnson is talking about us being outside the EU and getting a better deal with Japan than the one they have just signed with the EU. That deal forbids Japan offering anyone a better deal on anything than they deal they have with the EU - ARTICLE 8;17 of the Japan / EU deal. Johnson either knows that and is lying or is stupid and doesn't know that.
Its not talking the country down its understanding the potential harm coming our way because in dealing with the UK on its own or the EU as a 27 country bloc where is the incentive for Japan to offer us an awful lot?
All you are going to end up with is a change in colour on the passports.