Another new Brexit thread

[Ric]

The type of people who would hold a Brexit party are the type of people I would never like to have a drink with, ever.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

@karen7 is having one. £5 a ticket. Fanboys free entry

 

[liamctid]

It's a shame that we don't officially leave til tonight when it'll be dark, would have been nice for you lot who have posted 400 times a day on the many Brexit threads over the past few years to celebrate by getting some sunshine on your skin.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It's a shame that we don't officially leave til tonight when it'll be dark, would have been nice for you lot who have posted 400 times a day on the many Brexit threads over the past few years to celebrate by getting some sunshine on your skin.

if only there was a double like button.

 

[Zuriblue]

It's one of the leave narratives that annoys me the most, the "we're all thick racists" line. Obviously not all thick, and obviously not all racists, so I don't think that.

I just think they're all twats.

To be honest I’ve not heard all leavers being called thick racists much if at all. It’s normally something that’s trotted out by leavers when they want to play the victim card.

 

[KS55]

1. Relax
2. Yes. They will not make a special provision for the UK.
3. I presume they pass specific laws to give it effect and this then can be tested under constitutional law. If I recall correctly Germany has a specific constitutional court.
4. Agreed. I used international as a distinction from domestic and how one is shaped by the other. I presume EU requirements are codified into German law this becoming German law and retaining its primary status.

Yup, 3 is correct, as is 4.

 

[blueinsa]

You said it yourself on many occasions :)

I did when remain had it won just a few months ago.

How did they let that position slip yet again?

 

[yerwot?]

No doubt tomorrow will be a downer for all those led to believe all them forriners will be purged, a promise is a promise..that right nigel?boris?gove?..Its what they voted for ...k

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

To be honest I’ve not heard all leavers being called thick racists much if at all. It’s normally something that’s trotted out by leavers when they want to play the victim card.

are the winners of a referendum and a general election victims?

 

[BobKowalski]

Not Baker actually, Montgomerie if it makes a difference. Maybe trade relations between groups of individual countries are described technically as bilaterals - I don't know but what's in a name - call them multilaterals if you like but Africa is not and never will be a new EU and neither will any of the other blocs you list morph into superstates. So the short refutation of your argument is that reducing tarriff barriers across national borders is not a sufficient condition for a nascent EU project. For that you need to factor in a political imperative - which is conspicuously lacking from those countries which want to govern themselves - i.e. everywhere other than the founding states of the EU - who seek to control the final superstate as their own empire anyway. No escape from the sovereign nation state BK - the idea that there can be is the product of dribbling loons.

Bi means two. This was Trump’s big idea. Bilateral trade deals only. Scrap NAFTA and do seperate deals with Mexico and Canada. Except both nations said no and individual States who benefited from NAFTA said no and...well long story short the bilateral deal died a death.

All trade blocs pool sovereignty. How much they pool depends on the amount of alignment. The more you align the more you can reduce trade barriers and then you need administration, rules and a judiciary to oversee and enforce rules. The deeper the alignment, the more you reduce barriers, the more you trade and the more you integrate and pool sovereignty.

Montgomerie should stick to promoting fanatical Christianity and sucking up to anti-semites in Hungary.

 

[blueinsa]

To be honest I’ve not heard all leavers being called thick racists much if at all. It’s normally something that’s trotted out by leavers when they want to play the victim card.

Only winners this side of the debate mate.

However the thick racist card has indeed been used by remainers who feel they are a victim in all this.

No real arguments you see, just insults.

How has that gone for them?

 

[mat]

No doubt tomorrow will be a downer for all those led to believe all them forriners will be purged, a promise is a promise..that right nigel?boris?gove?..Its what they voted for ...k

My local co-op is out of Gammon. That must be a small economic boost?

 

[BobKowalski]

I did when remain had it won just a few months ago.

How did they let that position slip yet again?

Through incompetence and stupidity I imagine but the last Parliament agreed to the revised Withdrawal Agreement on 23rd October so there always was going to be a WA it’s just that the GE took all the fun out of it.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

No doubt tomorrow will be a downer for all those led to believe all them forriners will be purged, a promise is a promise..that right nigel?boris?gove?..Its what they voted for ...k

I'd imagine tomorrow will also be something of an anticlimax for those holding candle lit vigils tonight when tomorrow doesn't conform to their apocalyptic visions. Clowns on both sides.

 

[blueinsa]

The type of people who would hold a Brexit party are the type of people I would never like to have a drink with, ever.

Come on, you can bring you glockenspeil ;-)

 

[blueinsa]

My local co-op is out of Gammon. That must be a small economic boost?

Just seen a guy in a top hat and EU jacket cleaning the Kleenex shelf right out as well.

Hope Emily got hers first.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I think lily will be doing a broadcast at 11.

 

[urban genie]

Here in bruxelles it is all friendly and chilled, the vast plethora of our fellow europeans saying we will be missed.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Through incompetence and stupidity I imagine but the last Parliament agreed to the revised Withdrawal Agreement on 23rd October so there always was going to be a WA it’s just that the GE took all the fun out of it.

thank Gina Miller.

but for Gina’s democratic intervention, a weak Tory prime minister would have just enacted her softer withdrawal agreement and we would be leaving with softest brexit possible. We would not have had a general election which resulted in 80 plus majority for the Tories and Boris Johnson.

oh Gina what have you done!!!

lesson here is sometimes you can try and be too clever.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I did when remain had it won just a few months ago.

How did they let that position slip yet again?

Corbyn got played. It was very clear that BJ wanted a betrayal narrative to go in to an election and Corbyn (and the SNP who will get what they want out of this) gave him exactly what he wanted. Corbyn never gave a sh!t about brexit he basically acted like it wasn't a thing, tried to avoid the subject or any decision. He was desperate for a GE as I think he knew his game was up - a last stab at power while his stock was irretrievably heading down and before someone moved against him.

Without that election and without Corbyn I have no doubt that BJs deal would have been approved subject to a 2nd ref. More people voted for remain parties in the GE and BJs 'deal' would have lost a 2nd Ref. Take Corbyn out of the equation and it would have been very different....