Another new Brexit thread

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Ric said:
Quite a gamble, although it will no doubt appease the right, considering that he’s not really holding that many cards since introducing his own arbitrary deadline. Another interesting year ahead.
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It will please the SNP too, he is pretty much heading their campaign for 2021 now. interesting year ahead indeed. Glad we've ended the uncertainty.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I hope this doesn’t end up being the biggest act of national hubris, ending in disaster, in living memory.
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We've not had a good national humiliation since Suez. And Eden's folly then was what really prompted Britain to take a realistic view of our place in the world. And "being Greece to America's Rome" didn't appeal then though.

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The echoes can be heard today in the expansive rhetoric of Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, Conservative leaders of the Leave campaign. To restore itself to global leadership all Britain needs to do is unshackle itself from Brussels.

Macmillan dismissed this as nostalgia before Messrs Johnson and Gove were born. “In the past, as a great maritime power, we might give way to insular feelings of superiority over foreign breeds . . . But we have to consider the state of the world as it is today and will be tomorrow, and not in outdated terms of a vanished past,” he said. “Foreign breeds” is not a phrase a politician could use today, but it captured the assumption of superiority that still infuses the arguments of Tory nationalists.

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bluethrunthru said:
It won't be - Johnson, Francois, Bridgen, Rees-Mogg, Davis, Baker, Farage, Gove and many more assured it was a pathway to glory and prosperity ................remember that
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But Gove at least assumed that would be because we would still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border. At least, that's what he said.
 
Wow some right lily-livered people on this forum. The UK has to now play hardball with the EU, it is entirely correct that we will not be accepting alignment with their rules. What's the point of Brexit if that is the case. Why do you think they want us to, its simply because they actually fear a fully independent strong nation that is free of their imposed restrictions. We are not a tiny debt ridden EU country, we have plenty of cards to play in negotiations and Johnson knows this, so fair plays to him. I had my doubts he would do this but he has pleasantly surprised me. The rest of you better go and hide behind your sofa for the next year or so like you do when Dr Who is on the tv.
 
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blueinsa said:
Dont be like that Bob.

Barnier comes out with similar and you are swooning.

Boris has them on the ropes, you know it deep down.
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Deep down, one hopes our new army of professional negotiators will not relish going into bat with an instruction to threaten to leave with a lose-lose deal.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Wow some right lily-livered people on this forum. The UK has to now play hardball with the EU, it is entirely correct that we will not be accepting alignment with their rules. What's the point of Brexit if that is the case. Why do you think they want us to, its simply because they acfually fear a fully independent strong nation that is free of their imposed restrictions. We are not a tiny debt ridden EU country, we have plenty of cards to play in negotiations and Johnson knows this, so fair plays to him. I had my doubts he would do this but he has pleasantly surprised me. The rest of you better go and hide behind your sofa for the next year or so like you do when Dr Who is on the tv.
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I picked up on "what's the point of Brexit?" and "we are not a tiny debt ridden EU country". We are a large ex-EU debt-ridden country whose debt is about to get a lot bigger.
 
Vic said:
Deep down, one hopes our new army of professional negotiators will not relish going into bat with an instruction to threaten to leave with a lose-lose deal.
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Unlike the last lot they certainly wont be going in with letters of appeasement.
 
Vic said:
I picked up on "what's the point of Brexit?" and "we are not a tiny debt ridden EU country". We are a large ex-EU debt-ridden country whose debt is about to get a lot bigger.
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Get behind your sofa Vic. This is no place for the likes of you.
 
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