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blueparrot said:
Never knew this was a thing, one comment does mention washing steak as well. Done lots of cooking at home following recipe books watched loads of cooking programmes and never saw any mention washing chickens or meat of any kind. Live and learn. Might start a to wash or not to wash thread.
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You wont have to wash either for the next eleven months .... so I wouldn't start a thread just yet.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Coming to a supermarket near you .......... soon


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Chicken in a can ...... American style


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Whatever next.
Chlorinated gammon?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Ikea in Coventry gone, kirk douglas dead, coronavirus declared a global emergency by WHO, and this is after less than a week of being out of the EU :-(
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An IKEA closing? It’s the breaking of the sixth seal and then the sun shall darken like sackcloth and the moon become like blood.

It’s also possible I am being a tad over pessimistic. Or so I have been told.
 
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BobKowalski said:
An IKEA closing? It’s the breaking of the sixth seal and then the sun shall darken like sackcloth and the moon become like blood.

It’s also possible I am being a tad over pessimistic. Or so I have been told.
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Well coming back to chicken

it’s a bit like the tale of chicken licken when he went around telling everyone the sky was falling down only for it to be an acorn falling on his head.

I must get some kind of bluemoon award for getting the tale of chicken licken into the brexit debate.
 
BobKowalski said:
Why am I posting an article from the Telegraph (a staunchly pro Brexit and pro Govt paper) written by the Brexit Party Chairman about the future negotiations with the EU in the Brexit thread?

Where would you suggest I post it?
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My response was made without going to the article that you linked so I had no idea of it's content or of which individual/party was referenced.

My 'observations/rant' was a response to the opening line of your post - "This is why we mock...…" and reflected my realisation that you had decided to add yourself to the increasing number of posters on here that have no/little interest in debating what lies ahead for the UK and who's scope of posting is limited to trawling for links to spurious articles solely for the purpose of hiding from the effort of debate and taking refuge in trolling and fuelling their habit of posting irrelevance.

There have been a good few doing that for a long time - but disappointingly, that cadre has increased to include posters that had previously been able to offer more

My question of why you had posted the link to the article was I guess rhetoric, as you had made it clear that it had been solely with the intention of associating Leavers on here with some bollocks you had found on the internet, irrespective of any relevance.

I refer sometimes to the 'pack' approach taken by some Remainers on here as they act together to ensure that any debate of the future is closed down. I suggest that you take it as a perverse compliment that finding you following the path towards the banality taken by so many others that used to be worth engaging with, caused more disappointment than previous occurrences.

Perhaps this lack of capability to discuss where the subject of Brexit is going during 2020 and enter into discussion on the preparation, conduct and outcomes of the upcoming negotiations, is just too much to expect on a forum where so many posters are still obsessed with the 2016 campaign and, being still unable to accept the outcome of recent months, have a need to take refuge in snide.
 
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mcfc1632 said:
My response was made without going to the article that you linked so I had no idea of it's content or of which individual/party was referenced.

By 'observations/rant' was a response to the opening line of your post - "This is why we mock...…" and reflected my realisation that you had decided to add yourself to the increasing number of posters on here that have no/little interest in debating what lies ahead for the UK and who's scope of posting is limited to trawling for links to spurious articles solely for the purpose of hiding from the effort of debate and taking refuge in trolling and fuelling their habit of posting irrelevance.

There have been a good few doing that for a long time - but disappointingly, that cadre has increased to include posters that had previously been able to offer more

My question of why you had posted the link to the article was I guess rhetoric, as you had made it clear that it had been solely with the intention of associating Leavers on here with some bollocks you had found on the internet, irrespective of any relevance.

I refer sometimes to the 'pack' approach taken by some Remainers on here as they act together to ensure that any debate of the future is closed down. I suggest that you take it as a perverse compliment that finding you following the path towards the banality taken by so many others that used to be worth engaging with, caused more disappointment than previous occurrences.

Perhaps this lack of capability to discuss where the subject of Brexit is going during 2020 and enter into discussion on the preparation, conduct and outcomes of the upcoming negotiations, is just too much to expect on a forum where so many posters are still obsessed with the 2016 campaign and, being still unable to accept the outcome of recent months, have a need to take refuge in snide.
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My response is made without reading beyond the first sentence.

I nevertheless conclude that you are wrong.
No evidence of that because I don't even know what you said.

Just weirder and weirder.
 
mcfc1632 said:
My response was made without going to the article that you linked so I had no idea of it's content of which individual/party was referenced.

By 'observations/rant' was a response to the opening line of your post - "This is why we mock...…" and reflected my realisation that you had decided to add yourself to the increasing number of posters on here that have no/little interest in debating what lies ahead for the UK and who's scope of posting is limited to trawling for links to spurious articles solely for the purpose of hiding from the effort of debate and taking refuge in trolling and fuelling their habit of posting irrelevance.

There have been a good few doing that for a long time - but disappointingly, that cadre has increased to include posters that had previously been able to offer more

My question of why you had posted the link to the article was I guess rhetoric, as you had made it clear that it had been solely with the intention of associating Leavers on here with some bollocks you had found on the internet, irrespective of any relevance.

I refer sometimes to the 'pack' approach taken by some Remainers on here as they act together to ensure that any debate of the future is closed down. I suggest that you take it as a perverse compliment that finding you following the path towards the banality taken by so many others that used to be worth engaging with caused more disappointment than previous occurrences.

Perhaps this lack of capability to discuss where the subject of Brexit is going during 2020 and enter into discussion on negotiations preparation, conduct and outcomes is just too much to expect on a forum where so many posters are still obsessed with the 2016 campaign and being still unable to accept the outcome of recent months have a need to take refuge in snide.
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Perhaps before replying you should have read the article. There was a lot to mock.

And it wasn’t just something ‘I found on the internet’. It was an article in the Daily Telegraph written by the chairman of the Brexit Party making absurd military comparisons, something we are in the habit of doing, about the future negotiations. It wasn’t some obscure blog post written by a nobody getting off on some fantasy Brexit porn. It was the chairman of the Brexit party in the Daily Telegraph getting off on some fantasy Brexit porn.

For me it’s the anguish of people who cannot comprehend how the world has changed and where we fit in that world. You can hear the outrage of Andrew Neill proclaiming how much better we are on this regulation or state aid or whatever and Europe should be following our lead not the other way round. We joined the Common Market with the avowed intention to lead the way in Europe and we left the EU to lead Europe out of it not to get told what we can and cannot do or get slapped around by the bloody Irish. Since when did these other countries, smaller countries, have agency? Why does no one listen to us anymore? Well they probably stopped listening because they too can read the Daily Telegraph.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Did you have a tough day yesterday?
My guess is that the forum will bump along as it has in the past and include the genuinely insightful, the mad and the bad. I wouldn't expect any more from it. One thing is for sure though I think you will continue to give as good as you get and your cri de couer was no doubt sincere but a little misplaced (imo). Whilst I believe that everyone recognises the reality, the deep divisions are not going to be healed by simply 'growing the fuck up'.

Calling out the consequences of Brexit negative or positive will no doubt continue on this thread and thats as it should be. Those that are negative will without doubt be accused of not supporting the UK albeit they will be simply reflecting the truth as posters see it. I agree we need to look forwards and I think that will happen naturally. Cutting the insults would be a good starting place but I would also suggest that the last 3 or 4 years cannot simply be chlorine washed away.
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I see what you did there.
 
Vic said:
My response is made without reading beyond the first sentence.

I nevertheless conclude that you are wrong.
No evidence of that because I don't even know what you said.

Just weirder and weirder.
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Yet again you post without thinking

I said:

"My response was made without going to the article that you linked so I had no idea of it's content or of which individual/party was referenced....." So I was not saying anything about the content of that article being wrong etc. It seems that the need to fire of a barb at a Leave supporter greatly outweighs any consideration of first assessing/thinking.

Also I explicitly said:

"My 'observations/rant' was a response to the opening line of your post - "This is why we mock...…"

So I was clear that my post was entirely a reply to that stated intention by BobK to post something simply to mock rather than add to the debate and observations about the state of Brexit negotiations and how that has become the increasing fayre from Remainers

Not difficult to understand - and you prove it with another post that confirms my observations

I increasingly do not bother responding to you as you are one of those that I consider to be amongst the group that used to post content that provided something to debate/discuss, but have now joined the pack that just jump on the posts of Leavers and perpetuate the 'quality' that the thread as reduced to.

I guess you may want to take that as a 'perverse compliment' as I suggested BobK should - but, IMO, for you that transition happened a good while ago so I am not sure that is still valid.

So many posts from Remainers on these threads are like this one from you - nothing more than an attempt to demean other posters - and so many others offer nothing more than links and references to irrelevant points/articles.

That was the point(s) that I was making
 
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