UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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bitterblue said:
Once upon a time, there was a really prestigious football tournament called the European Cup, which was based on sporting excellence. It brought together outstanding teams from across the continent. To qualify teams first had to prove themselves by winning their own league, this truly was a competition for champions.

With the glory though also came the opportunity for great wealth & eventually the principal of sporting excellence was overtaken by greed. The self-appointed elite of the time "the European Royalty" decided they wanted a greater share of the spoils & they wanted it guaranteed regardless of their performance!

The grubby little cartel (later known as the G14) threatened to break away & form their own Super League, unless everyone else agreed to their demands! Feeling they had little choice, UEFA caved in & the"Champions" League was born.

At the heart of this self-serving little cartel were 3 English clubs (Man United, Liverpool & Arsenal) & coincidentally the format of the new competition granted 3 places to English teams. It also changed from a straight knockout format to an initial group stage. So now not only could they still qualify by only finishing 2nd or 3rd in the Premier League, they were also guaranteed at least 6 lucrative fixtures each season.

BOOM! The money started rolling in & the big 3 got fatter, as they disappeared over the horizon, leaving the rest of the league with little chance of ever challenging their increasing financial dominance!

Then out of the blue, a wealthy Russian Oligarch, Roman Abramovich, rolled into town to bankroll Chelsea & gatecrash the party! With the gravy train now under threat, the greedy little threesome convinced UEFA to increase the English allocation to 4 places! Phew disaster averted, onwards & upwards, no harm done...

That was until the "evil" Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City with his unlimited "dirty oil money!"!

Now with UEFA unable or unwilling to accommodate this latest unwelcome guest at the top table, a new strategy was required to preserve the dominance of the established elite. Without further a do, the "Financial Fair Play" was conceived!

This had little to do with "fair play", turning a blind eye to debt ridden clubs & owners that systematically drained money out of the game! It was solely designed to stop wealthy owners investing in clubs & making them competitive; thus ensuring the lazy established elite remained unchallenged.

Undeterred by the bogus nature of these new constraints targeted at them & any future investors, Manchester City embarked on transforming the club, with initial investment to break the cartel & putting top quality people in place, off the field as well as on it.

In addition to breaking all records on the pitch, the club has now achieved commercial sustainability & delivered 4 years of profit. The club is now independently valued at over £2B (reportedly outstripping all the Premier League old-guard). This has shown a huge return on Sheikh Mansour's £1.2B investment & dispelling the lie of "financial doping".

So what do the owners of the established "European Royalty" do now? Up their game? Risk their own money to meet the challenge? No! They utilise their stooges in the media to try & discredit City's achievements & demand UEFA do "something" to derail Citys' progress!

Manchester City FC -
Centurions
Fourmidables
Champions of England (again)
FA Cup holders
League Cup holders
The best ran football club in the world!

Thank you Sheikh Mansour, thank you Kaldoon & Thank you Pep Guardiola.
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I’m nominating youfor a Booker prize

Take a fucking bow
 
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SebastianBlue said:
I would be very happy to hear from a learned legal resource on this but here are basic answers based on my review of various reports/materials related to FFP over the last few years.

1. There are multiple jurisdictions, so we may very well pursue a case in several to ensure at least one “sticks”. The CL is a European competition, administrated by a European organisation, and regardless of whether the UK is in or out of the EU, the club could bring a case to the ECJ regarding regulations enforced for that competition, just like EU law applies to you when you are in the EU even if you are from a non-member nation.
2. This will be a different challenge based on demonstrable financial and operational impacts of trade/investment restriction.
3. EU commission sanctioned the rules but that does not mean they are inherently fundamentally legal. There have been laws struck down (in part or whole) well after implementation because of subsequent scrutinisation in the courts.
4. Yes, we can definitely challenge the PL on their version of FFP in addition to challenge UEFA FFP.
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Thanks for that. Very helpful. This will run and run.
 
Metalartin said:
Who ever wrote this, can you please not speak on behalf of City fans or tell us what to do ever again you prat!

https://www.football365.com/news/ma..._Related_Articles_Unit&utm_campaign=Benchmark

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Haha I'm convinced this is a dipper now:


Getting this one in just incase the CAS side with City:


The idiot doesn't even know what FFP was designed for.
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That letter screams either the football365 editor having one his writers fabricate it for hits or a United or Liverpool supporter posing as a blue to get his wind up published.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
What would land us in the shit is if UEFA could see separately identified remittances of £8m from Etihad and £42m from ADUG both booked as commercial income under the Etihad sponsorship arrangement. But if that was the case, they'd have seen that at the time of the 2014 investigation presumably.
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Would even this be sufficient so long as we could prove that the money that came from ADUG first came via Etihad or whoever was supporting Etihad when it was in financial trouble
 
SebastianBlue said:
That letter screams either the football365 editor having one his writers fabricate it for hits or a United or Liverpool supporter posing as a blue to get his wind up published.
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Suppose there's nothing we can do about that other than boycott their site.
 
Metalartin said:
Suppose there's nothing we can do about that other than boycott their site.
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Yes. We’ll be seeing a lot of this over the next few months/years.

And even if it was a blue, they speak for a very small minority of fans.
 
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