UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Kinkys Left Foot said:
Colin, I recently re visited the leaked/hacked emails on Der Spiegels website and the email laid out in copy defo says ADUG provided the additional funds. Do you suppose that's a mistake by Pearce, or an instance indicating those emails are fabricated either in part or otherwise?
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I think Colin’s already answered that. The reference to ADUG was wholly Der Spiegel’s assumption and wasn’t lifted from the emails.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
If we win this case, it will be better than winning any trophy, any quadruple, winning a title in the last minute. I fucking mean that. I want to see all these ****s battered and bruised like we have been over the years. I hope to god Khaldoon has got our backs here.
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To be fair, if you win the appeal but don't challenge FFP itself, you'll not batter or bruise anyone.

It will be a great victory but you'll still be considered a cheat that has not been caught by the non City fan and media. But that was already the case as soon as you got bought by the Sheik.
 
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manimanc said:
You know what I've not seen, heard or read one journalist saying we might have a case and it could work in our favour, everyone of them has said we're guilty and that we're the bad apple.

It's outrageous that the press, our press, aren't even trying a little bit to fight our corner.
Are they all utd and arsenal and Liverpool fans?
Are they all racists?
Do they hold a grudge with the middle East?

I find it amazing that they've all stuck the boot in and some with us, their bile and vitriol is shocking and I hope we've made a note and sue the shysters for all they have.
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Martin Samuel has been a constant supporter of ours for years.

But I concur the ethnicity of our owners is a major reason for the disgusting , biased and hateful press we have received.

The Sheik should be lorded for what he has brought to the City of Manchester in terms of investment and his club a flag bearer on how to run a successful, viable business.
 
Parisian said:
To be fair, if you win the appeal but don't challenge FFP itself, you'll not batter or bruise anyone.

It will be a great victory but you'll still be consider a cheat that has not been caught by the non City fan and media. But that was already the case as soon as you got bought by the Sheik.
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I think that depends on how they win the appeal. If they win on the facts, they are innocent and didn't cheat.

If they win on a technicality they cheated but got away with it.
 
super_city_si said:
Agree. It would just mean psg and Juve get bans too. Doesn’t help us
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No.
It would mean that given PSG and Juventus didn't get a ban, City shouldn't get one if treated fairly.

But, as Ric said, it shouldn't be the core of your defence since you are accused of other stuff.
 
domalino said:
I think you're mistaken in thinking City want FFP gone.

If they did, they could have mounted a challenge at any point over the last decade.

What City probably want is what United, Barcelona, Madrid want, which is FFP to exist, but to be so rich it's meaningless to them. I think the last thing City want as a club is for FFP to be gone and for 5 other billionaires to realise the chains are off and go mad trying to match us.
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I disagree.

I don’t think the prospect of additional competition from more billionaire owned clubs out ways the prospect of FFP continually being able to hinder City’s operations and development. As it stands right now, our leadership are not going to be given a seat at the table to be part of any decision making to change FFP to be more favourable to us, either. I think they initially didn’t challenge because they thought they may be able to get a seat at the table but have learned — very much the hard way — that is not going to happen.

Which means allowing FFP to continue to exist will very likely mean continued attacks by UEFA and any party invested in restricting or damaging us, ad infinitum. And the only way to create a more favourable version under the premise you have presented would be to tear down UEFA and be part of a reformation, which would most likely happen via a successful challenge of FFP (within a framework of exposing corruption within its formulation, subsequent modifications, implementation, and enforcement).

I think our owners would very happily take competition on a *more* (as we know it will not be perfectly) level playing field than competition inherently favouring United, Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, and so on.
 
Parisian said:
To be fair, if you win the appeal but don't challenge FFP itself, you'll not batter or bruise anyone.

It will be a great victory but you'll still be consider a cheat that has not been caught by the non City fan and media. But that was already the case as soon as you got bought by the Sheik.
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I think after we win the CAS case, FFP will be next. Clubs like ourselves pre takeover must have the same chance that we did to join the top table.

It is very wrong when any owner is legally prohibited in investing in their business.
 
domalino said:
I think that depends on how they win the appeal. If they win on the facts, they are innocent and didn't cheat.

If they win on a technicality they cheated but got away with it.
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You know very well the fan, neutral public won't think like that. The media have already ran the narrative that City is the culprit and that is was long overdue. That you should even be stripped of your title and relegated (very stupid but when it is repeated in all media, people will believe it ofc).

The only reaction they'll have is that you cheated/bribed your way out of trouble, sadly.
 
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